Return of Reckoning

Nameless wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:00 am

Chinesehero wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:13 am

bichka wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:47 am you must count armor debuff (worst in your case by mara is about 1300-1400) + armor penetration, which even on my WE is 20%. Choppas & maras have much more for sure.

so 3k is almost nothing if you get focused.

3300 armor is cap
u mean if I have 8000 armor, the part over 3300 still can resist the debuff or armor penetration???

All armor above 3300 is stored to negate armor debuffs and armor prenetration. But if u are not armor debuffed and enemy have almost 0 armor penetration that stored armor is useless

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:01 am Counting for debuffs is a gamble as there's no gurantee that you get into a situation where you get struck by a capped armordebuff, especially with the amount of avoidance tanks have. I wouldn't take it into consideration unless you consistantly face meta premades. Weaponskill on the other hand is consistant at 30-40%. So I would aim for around 117% armor mitigration flat and focus rest on wounds or toughness.

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:01 am Counting for debuffs is a gamble as there's no gurantee that you get into a situation where you get struck by a capped armordebuff, especially with the amount of avoidance tanks have. I wouldn't take it into consideration unless you consistantly face meta premades. Weaponskill on the other hand is consistant at 30-40%. So I would aim for around 117% armor mitigration flat and focus rest on wounds or toughness.

Chinesehero wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:10 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:01 am Counting for debuffs is a gamble as there's no gurantee that you get into a situation where you get struck by a capped armordebuff, especially with the amount of avoidance tanks have. I wouldn't take it into consideration unless you consistantly face meta premades. Weaponskill on the other hand is consistant at 30-40%. So I would aim for around 117% armor mitigration flat and focus rest on wounds or toughness.

my SM dont stack WS also get 30% armor penetration. I think the sets give some unfair stats for the SM

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:25 am

Chinesehero wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:10 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:01 am Counting for debuffs is a gamble as there's no gurantee that you get into a situation where you get struck by a capped armordebuff, especially with the amount of avoidance tanks have. I wouldn't take it into consideration unless you consistantly face meta premades. Weaponskill on the other hand is consistant at 30-40%. So I would aim for around 117% armor mitigration flat and focus rest on wounds or toughness.

my SM dont stack WS also get 30% armor penetration. I think the sets give some unfair stats for the SM

Tanks have high WS in general.
5150 -should be 117% - any kinda arm pen reduction. If you have 10% reduction from items then you need much less.

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:25 am

Chinesehero wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:10 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:01 am Counting for debuffs is a gamble as there's no gurantee that you get into a situation where you get struck by a capped armordebuff, especially with the amount of avoidance tanks have. I wouldn't take it into consideration unless you consistantly face meta premades. Weaponskill on the other hand is consistant at 30-40%. So I would aim for around 117% armor mitigration flat and focus rest on wounds or toughness.

my SM dont stack WS also get 30% armor penetration. I think the sets give some unfair stats for the SM

Tanks have high WS in general.
5150 -should be 117% - any kinda arm pen reduction. If you have 10% reduction from items then you need much less.

Chinesehero wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:48 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:25 am

Chinesehero wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:10 am

my SM dont stack WS also get 30% armor penetration. I think the sets give some unfair stats for the SM

Tanks have high WS in general.
5150 -should be 117% - any kinda arm pen reduction. If you have 10% reduction from items then you need much less.

i can stack 5600 armor, also 10% reduction armor. But u say it is over and useless

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:02 am

Chinesehero wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:48 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:25 am

Tanks have high WS in general.
5150 -should be 117% - any kinda arm pen reduction. If you have 10% reduction from items then you need much less.

i can stack 5600 armor, also 10% reduction armor. But u say it is over and useless

Not useless, just limited.

The WS tanks get inherently is the same across the board. It's probobly meant from a design point of view to compliment Parry, as weaponskill both increase damage and surviability and in theory is a desireble stat for a tank.

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:02 am

Chinesehero wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:48 am

roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:25 am

Tanks have high WS in general.
5150 -should be 117% - any kinda arm pen reduction. If you have 10% reduction from items then you need much less.

i can stack 5600 armor, also 10% reduction armor. But u say it is over and useless

Not useless, just limited.

The WS tanks get inherently is the same across the board. It's probobly meant from a design point of view to compliment Parry, as weaponskill both increase damage and surviability and in theory is a desireble stat for a tank.