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Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:51 am
by scatterthewinds
Maybe we need to remove objectives from scenarios then? We already have ORVR for objective play. Just make every SC 1 flag in the middle like caledor woods or something with multiple flags like battle for praag.

Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:13 am
by anarchypark
what, my english was too broken to understand? again?

my point is don't give up, keep trying with what you have.

you seriously think order was better comp?
it was 6vs6 pug.
both side wiped a few times.
some destro gave up, order kept trying.
no blame and whine on chat.
you can win with brain and teamplay, even in pug.

play AM if you think it's OP.
you'll experience hell mode.
hell mode is fun if you like challenge.

Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:51 am
by Ramasee
scatterthewinds wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:51 am Maybe we need to remove objectives from scenarios then? We already have ORVR for objective play. Just make every SC 1 flag in the middle like caledor woods or something with multiple flags like battle for praag.
Yes by all means let us limit our choices and options even more! That always keeps players.

Kills are a means to take the objective. Objectives create flow within maps and help initiate conflicts. No objectives generally lead to camping in good positions and refusing to move until it either stalemates or one side gets bored. Also objectives allow a side that is not good in team fights to still have a shot at victory or better losing rewards by playing the objective and kiting.

As for the OP, destro did fine equaling your kills. They just did not do the objective as well. Scenario composition is always whack and really isn't that great of an indicator unless this happened over the course of several weeks. A few hours of the same is just people refusing to change characters and still queueing.

Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:06 pm
by Aerogath
Welcome to ROR :D

Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:47 pm
by Telen
5v6 and no healers on des. If Order had any real dps it wouldnt have been even. Yet still those soloers that get killed by some dpsAM will claim its op.

People in thread are missing the point Ararchy is making. Despite des having **** comp and no heals still AM struggles.

Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:51 pm
by Aerogath
Telen wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:47 pm 5v6 and no healers on des. If Order had any real dps it wouldnt have been even. Yet still those soloers that get killed by some dpsAM will claim its op.
Wup Wup, Am main detected :D

Just play premade on destro side or live with a high stress level.

Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:53 pm
by Telen
Aerogath wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:51 pm Wup Wup, Am main detected :D

Just play premade on destro side or live with a high stress level.
Any AMs kill you in 3s at a bo lately? Or did you dream something else last night?

Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:57 pm
by Aerogath
Telen wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:53 pm
Aerogath wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:51 pm Wup Wup, Am main detected :D

Just play premade on destro side or live with a high stress level.
Any AMs kill you in 3s at a bo lately? Or did you dream something else last night?
Ill dream finally seeing a **** balanced AM that Can`t burst me in 3 seconds where other caster classes can cast only 1 time :D

Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:06 pm
by Telen
Aerogath wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:57 pm Ill dream finally seeing a **** balanced AM that Can`t burst me in 3 seconds where other caster classes can cast only 1 time :D
Dont eat cheese before bed you wont have bad dreams.

Re: Handicap play

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:07 pm
by peterthepan3
Aerogath wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:57 pm
Telen wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:53 pm
Aerogath wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:51 pm Wup Wup, Am main detected :D

Just play premade on destro side or live with a high stress level.
Any AMs kill you in 3s at a bo lately? Or did you dream something else last night?
Ill dream finally seeing a **** balanced AM that Can`t burst me in 3 seconds where other caster classes can cast only 1 time :D
Magus, Sorc, BW and Engineer are all laughing at this idea of AM burst.