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Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:21 pm
by Bowldancer
Really bad idea. We don't have the population for that.
Merging T2-T4 was the best design decision the Devs made.

Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:22 pm
by Akilinus
Not sure if you were around on RoR when T2 and T3 was still a thing but there was no one in the maps and if it were it was a warband on one of the sides doing pvdoor

Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:37 pm
by Darks63
It could work out well. However with the exp slow scroll you could just end up with twinks who dominate those tiers much like 80s dominate the t4 game now.

Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:38 pm
by kauyon1
I think what they aren't articulating to you, is that they are against trying it, it's that they did try it. It was RvDoor like T2 was in live before the merged T2/3.

When there are plenty of people online other zones open up. And usually the majority of players play in T4 until there is a stalemate or the flip it to the end. So many times there is a t2 or t3 zone open with very few people in it.

Your request is kind of already in game as you kind of get what you ask for. When there are enough people a 2 zone is open. Most players are attracted to staying in the t4 zone as most likely that's where their contribution is. So their generally is a lowbie zone open to 'learn' siege mechanics. And if there isn't, there aren't enough people online.

Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:44 pm
by Shooshpanzerer
My 2 cents. T2/T3 was ghosttowns, but i would suggest to merge t1/t2 and t3/t4, with t1/2 is 1-19, t3/t4 20-40.

Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:21 pm
by Yaliskah
The major problem is this one :

We merged T2-T4 for some reasons :

- NA pop : It is impossible because for non primetime populqation to fill 3 differents tiers and assure a functionnal bachground. If we had 800+ players connected h24 maybe choice would have been different.

- The multipairing : Most of players asked for. We introduced it. And well... thats not a real success, even "lowbies" could go in other zones to make their own campains.

- The previous T2/T3 : Fact is, pop balance was ridiculous after T4 integration. So if the purpose is to hit a door and lock empty areas, Mmm...

- Lot of ppl were complaining about progression (they still, we are aware of and we plan to work on it, but we have hundreds of things on the table :( ) : They couldn't play with their HL buddies and it was a problem. Going back on this will re-activate a solved problem.


You could argument :

-Why not let player choose? Separate T2-T3 and let be insta 31-40 those who want to, atleast those who wanna be in a lower tier will enjoy without being killed by HL.

my answer > It wont solve the T2-T3 issue, it should probably make it worse.

-Why not introduce a twink system and "lock" players progression in the tier they want. Altealst they could play where they want, when they want.

my answer> Debolster has been tested. It was fun. Never made up for the lack of population. No need to say if we talk about real twinks (max power in a dedicated tier), fresh players will complain MUCH more.

No need to point we spent a year to make this rework (and it isn't finished :( ). I let you imagine the amount of time and energy it represent.

Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:22 pm
by foghladha
Whats the harm in allowing level 16+ to choose to play in T4 or at least T2? Your friends could jump straight to T4 if they want.

I realize most of the people if not all of the people who are saying nay are 40+. What about the people who arent. Lets hear some opinions from people who are not level 40+.

Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:30 pm
by lamashtu
Even without the population issue, I love having more variety in the maps I'm playing on. On live, I was frustrated having to play in the same lakes day after day. I'd really hate to return to that.

Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:32 pm
by saupreusse
foghladha wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:22 pm Whats the harm in allowing level 16+ to choose to play in T4 or at least T2? Your friends could jump straight to T4 if they want.

I realize most of the people if not all of the people who are saying nay are 40+. What about the people who arent. Lets hear some opinions from people who are not level 40+.
Please realize that we had this System. Exactly this system. It did not work at all because T2/T3 was a ghosttown were no one could play RvR outside of some more busy days now and then. It simply was not possible to level through this place by pvp because there usualy was none. It definately scared newbs away more than being thrown into the fighting pit. Its not that we dont want to try it, we did it and it was flawed beyond repair.

Re: [Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:38 pm
by zgolec
I would leave R|VR as they are now but allow player 16+ with proper bolster to praticipate in SCs.... ATM scenarions in t2/3 are popping like....1-2 per day which is total bs ;p