Return of Reckoning

Honestly, if the devs didn't Ninja-nerf the damage output, there is no WL nerf whatsoever.
In fact its rather a buff, because you can take off some damage from the pet now wich was the only "weakness" the class had.
The main Hunter/Guardian build didn't change at all.

Panzerkasper wrote:Honestly, if the devs didn't Ninja-nerf the damage output, there is no WL nerf whatsoever.
In fact its rather a buff, because you can take off some damage from the pet now wich was the only "weakness" the class had.
The main Hunter/Guardian build didn't change at all.

I mean technically the player should loose some dps, but the extra points in the tree mean that the pet is now as strong as possible.

I am on the fence as the the use of the guard, i mean the pet is a resource and vital to the wl's ability to dps especially in guardian but i just bring myself to want to take damage for it damage that could be potentially lethal.

Toldavf wrote:

Panzerkasper wrote:Honestly, if the devs didn't Ninja-nerf the damage output, there is no WL nerf whatsoever.
In fact its rather a buff, because you can take off some damage from the pet now wich was the only "weakness" the class had.
The main Hunter/Guardian build didn't change at all.

I mean technically the player should loose some dps, but the extra points in the tree mean that the pet is now as strong as possible.

I am on the fence as the the use of the guard, i mean the pet is a resource and vital to the wl's ability to dps especially in guardian but i just bring myself to want to take damage for it damage that could be potentially lethal.

We'll have to wait and see, give the change a week or two for data to properly collect.

Fallenkezef wrote:

Toldavf wrote:

Panzerkasper wrote:Honestly, if the devs didn't Ninja-nerf the damage output, there is no WL nerf whatsoever.
In fact its rather a buff, because you can take off some damage from the pet now wich was the only "weakness" the class had.
The main Hunter/Guardian build didn't change at all.

I mean technically the player should loose some dps, but the extra points in the tree mean that the pet is now as strong as possible.

I am on the fence as the the use of the guard, i mean the pet is a resource and vital to the wl's ability to dps especially in guardian but i just bring myself to want to take damage for it damage that could be potentially lethal.

We'll have to wait and see, give the change a week or two for data to properly collect.

I agree, this is a massive change and i wouldn't expect anyone to get it 100% perfect on the first try.

Toldavf wrote:

Panzerkasper wrote:Honestly, if the devs didn't Ninja-nerf the damage output, there is no WL nerf whatsoever.
In fact its rather a buff, because you can take off some damage from the pet now wich was the only "weakness" the class had.
The main Hunter/Guardian build didn't change at all.

I mean technically the player should loose some dps, but the extra points in the tree mean that the pet is now as strong as possible.

I am on the fence as the the use of the guard, i mean the pet is a resource and vital to the wl's ability to dps especially in guardian but i just bring myself to want to take damage for it damage that could be potentially lethal.

Let me tell you, from the healer perspective: Its easier to heal the player then the pet.
So i think this ability is more viable then people may think it is. But also, its a Day1 patch analysis and we will see how it turns out. The only thing I absolutly do not see is a nerf.

Toldavf wrote:

Fallenkezef wrote:

Toldavf wrote:
I mean technically the player should loose some dps, but the extra points in the tree mean that the pet is now as strong as possible.

I am on the fence as the the use of the guard, i mean the pet is a resource and vital to the wl's ability to dps especially in guardian but i just bring myself to want to take damage for it damage that could be potentially lethal.

We'll have to wait and see, give the change a week or two for data to properly collect.

I agree, this is a massive change and i wouldn't expect anyone to get it 100% perfect on the first try.

The WL needed to be balanced, it was so OP 1v1 and small scale but they need a place in rvr. I think the devs are going in the right direction, identified the "cheese" spec while leaving the others and giving a valuable ability to keep the pet alive. I think the guard ability will be useful on a wb level.

Panzerkasper wrote: The main Hunter/Guardian build didn't change at all.

And what is the main hunter/guardian build you are referring to? Cuz the one I'm familiar with and that I seem to run into the most just got too expensive to do, even at RR70.

Fallenkezef wrote:

Toldavf wrote:

Fallenkezef wrote:
We'll have to wait and see, give the change a week or two for data to properly collect.

I agree, this is a massive change and i wouldn't expect anyone to get it 100% perfect on the first try.

The WL needed to be balanced, it was so OP 1v1 and small scale but they need a place in rvr. I think the devs are going in the right direction, identified the "cheese" spec while leaving the others and giving a valuable ability to keep the pet alive. I think the guard ability will be useful on a wb level.

OP in smallscale and 1v1? Please...

Guardian tree never needed FO to be even remotely viable in the first place. I played my WL exactly how they changed it before the patch, without FO, and I was perfectly capable of doing 1v1s, 1v2s, 1v3s, and even a 1v4 before.

All it took was proper positioning, targeting, etc.

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