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Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:03 am
by diedrake
Ok, where on your skill trees is that ability in? Is it in heal tree? Or one of the dps trees?

Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:26 am
by diedrake
Maxing str/ crit, maximizes the 2 abilities you are suggesting to lower damage, increase heal percent AND undefendable.

As you stated earlier melee healers are not in a good spot right now, why are you proposing to inherently nerf those for a melee healer just so that you can use those abilities in the backlines?

I am just disagreeing with your suggested change.

Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:27 am
by Endyne
diedrake wrote:Maxing str/ crit, maximizes the 2 abilities you are suggesting to lower damage, increase heal percent AND undefendable.

As you stated earlier melee healers are not in a good spot right now, why are you proposing to inherently nerf those for a melee healer just so that you can use those abilities in the backlines?

I am just disagreeing with your suggested change.
A nerf to damage and in increase to healing/consistency, how does that nerf a healer? Some of the best heals a WP has are 1. Melee, and 2. dependant upon getting through enemy defenses/mitigations to be worthwhile. In its current iteration, it is clumsy and doesn't leave much variation to healing builds. Perhaps a better idea, to leave lolwpdps alone, would be a tactic to change them to flat healing, low damage, undefendable. Maybe make divine fury affect melee heals as well, then.

Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:34 am
by Rowanmantle
WP dps isn't optimal but it works in good setups, even grace healing with WW can be beneficial and spreading your parry buff, however i do feel like WP's need a 50%HD it will give them that extra niche.

P.S. Costmetic off hand shields like the lord from TC would be nice *wink *wink

Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:53 am
by Darosh
Rowanmantle wrote:WP dps isn't optimal but it works in good setups, even grace healing with WW can be beneficial and spreading your parry buff, however i do feel like WP's need a 50%HD it will give them that extra niche.

P.S. Costmetic off hand shields like the lord from TC would be nice *wink *wink
Might aswell just bring a class with a reliable HD ~
SW (HD + inidebuffs), would allow you to basically completly ignore crit and stack more defenses.

Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:57 am
by Rowanmantle
Darosh wrote:
Rowanmantle wrote:WP dps isn't optimal but it works in good setups, even grace healing with WW can be beneficial and spreading your parry buff, however i do feel like WP's need a 50%HD it will give them that extra niche.

P.S. Costmetic off hand shields like the lord from TC would be nice *wink *wink
Might aswell just bring a class with a reliable HD ~
SW (HD + inidebuffs), would allow you to basically completly ignore crit and stack more defenses.
Or maybe I just need you to get BL and go Two hander guard me Mr Nivy

Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:19 am
by Warfare80
CANT nerf the damage. It would kill the few brave players who play dps WPs.
You have to choose to either go dps or healing. If you want to meleeheal then you have to gear and specc for it.
Myself either go full healing or full dps (with some support meleehealing when needed) But when im healingspecced i almost never hit people. Let the other classes handle the violence.
Before rr60 its pretty pointless going dps anyway. The survivalbility us just way to low. And even then a WP should avoid parryspecced enemies/tanks.

Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:55 pm
by xtc1999
Rowanmantle wrote:WP dps isn't optimal but it works in good setups, even grace healing with WW can be beneficial and spreading your parry buff, however i do feel like WP's need a 50%HD it will give them that extra niche.

P.S. Costmetic off hand shields like the lord from TC would be nice *wink *wink
The WP has had a 50% HD for like 2 months now.

Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:09 pm
by GodlessCrom
Much longer than 2 months. Absence of faith has been that way since they removed .ab ex for WP, IIRC. That, and the buff to the execute, were some of only changes that stuck.

Re: WP Skill change....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:35 pm
by Rowanmantle
xtc1999 wrote:
Rowanmantle wrote:WP dps isn't optimal but it works in good setups, even grace healing with WW can be beneficial and spreading your parry buff, however i do feel like WP's need a 50%HD it will give them that extra niche.

P.S. Costmetic off hand shields like the lord from TC would be nice *wink *wink
The WP has had a 50% HD for like 2 months now.
Any particular reason why it was reverted back to 25, in my eyes just get rid of the ability and allow dps WP to have a small niche:P