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				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:55 pm
				by Asherdoom
				daniilpb wrote:Feel yourself self confident? 
Try to play a tank  
 
That's what I always do with my BG. 
Just find yourself a group or a friend dps and you will feel the weight of responsibility. Guard and debuffs management, punts - these things will make your tank life shine. 
But again try to find a group because tanks are amazing to play mostly in group synergy and quite stressful in pug environment.
 
can u link me your balckguard spec you used till today? i am quite undecided about it
 
			 
			
					
				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:08 pm
				by archangella
				I'm very much impressed by the sheer amount of feedback I go thus far; thank-you VERY MUCH, everyone!
I very much enjoyed what I've read, and it seems I'll be rolling a tank after all. 
An utility-based tank does sound quite good, actually. I had my eye on one of the order tanks already, though I'm not keen at all on SM, to be honest. I'm not crazy about Chosen or Black Orc either on Destruction side, but Black Guard also sounds like an interesting choice. I've had a hard time pulling class-specific guides on youtube and whatnots. If anyone has links they want to contribute, this would be appreciated. 
Since I'm already here, if you allow me to digress for a bit, I do recall someone telling me way back in the day that Warrior Priests were also good at dishing out damage. Is this factually wrong information or is there a measure of truth to it?
Once again, thank you very much for your patience.
			 
			
					
				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:14 pm
				by daniilpb
				Asherdoom wrote:daniilpb wrote:Feel yourself self confident? 
Try to play a tank  
 
That's what I always do with my BG. 
Just find yourself a group or a friend dps and you will feel the weight of responsibility. Guard and debuffs management, punts - these things will make your tank life shine. 
But again try to find a group because tanks are amazing to play mostly in group synergy and quite stressful in pug environment.
 
can u link me your balckguard spec you used till today? i am quite undecided about it
 
I usually use this as a full tank - support build 
RoR.builders - Black Guard
And this one for bruiser, dps tank 
RoR.builders - Black Guard
Currently I use second build with SnB.
2H build might require full 1st tree for all tactics and Crimson Death + Get Down but you must have BIS gear for it.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:16 pm
				by peterthepan3
				archangella wrote:I'm very much impressed by the sheer amount of feedback I go thus far; thank-you VERY MUCH, everyone!
I very much enjoyed what I've read, and it seems I'll be rolling a tank after all. 
An utility-based tank does sound quite good, actually. I had my eye on one of the order tanks already, though I'm not keen at all on SM, to be honest. I'm not crazy about Chosen or Black Orc either on Destruction side, but Black Guard also sounds like an interesting choice. I've had a hard time pulling class-specific guides on youtube and whatnots. If anyone has links they want to contribute, this would be appreciated. 
Since I'm already here, if you allow me to digress for a bit, I do recall someone telling me way back in the day that Warrior Priests were also good at dishing out damage. Is this factually wrong information or is there a measure of truth to it?
Once again, thank you very much for your patience.
If you want to know about the viability of a DPS WP, I recommend you check out 
this link.
If you want a series of guides that pertain to playing an IB, I recommend checking out 
Volgograd's YouTube Channel.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:38 pm
				by Shooshpanzerer
				archangella wrote:I'm very much impressed by the sheer amount of feedback I go thus far; thank-you VERY MUCH, everyone!
I very much enjoyed what I've read, and it seems I'll be rolling a tank after all. 
An utility-based tank does sound quite good, actually. I had my eye on one of the order tanks already, though I'm not keen at all on SM, to be honest. I'm not crazy about Chosen or Black Orc either on Destruction side, but Black Guard also sounds like an interesting choice.
Once again, thank you very much for your patience.
Problem with blackguard is that the only utility it has for large scale is Crimson Death, but it must be used with a 2 hander, and a 2h BG can't survive in large scale fights (and destro WB's have bad gas SH, dps zealot and magus for "snowflake" positions). So if you want maximum utility, take chosen/kotbs, if you want to mix utility and some damage, take BO/SM. Can't really say anything about small scale.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:44 pm
				by Orius
				Just a side note, I have found there is nothing quite as satisfying as forming a phalanx with other tanks in a broken keep doorway while waves of enemies break on your shields!
			 
			
					
				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:56 pm
				by tazdingo
				BGs may be more desired in wbs after the chosen/kotbs rework. they make good bodyguards with their stackable armor buff, will/tough buff, shareable regen and absorb shield. i could see them working well with future melee squigs who will have some awesome aoe abilities but may be a bit glassy
			 
			
					
				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:50 pm
				by Asherdoom
				daniilpb wrote:Asherdoom wrote:daniilpb wrote:Feel yourself self confident? 
Try to play a tank  
 
That's what I always do with my BG. 
Just find yourself a group or a friend dps and you will feel the weight of responsibility. Guard and debuffs management, punts - these things will make your tank life shine. 
But again try to find a group because tanks are amazing to play mostly in group synergy and quite stressful in pug environment.
 
can u link me your balckguard spec you used till today? i am quite undecided about it
 
I usually use this as a full tank - support build 
RoR.builders - Black Guard
And this one for bruiser, dps tank 
RoR.builders - Black Guard
Currently I use second build with SnB.
2H build might require full 1st tree for all tactics and Crimson Death + Get Down but you must have BIS gear for it.
 
taslis for second spec? stenght or WS?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:01 pm
				by daniilpb
				Asherdoom wrote:daniilpb wrote:Asherdoom wrote:
can u link me your balckguard spec you used till today? i am quite undecided about it
I usually use this as a full tank - support build 
RoR.builders - Black Guard
And this one for bruiser, dps tank 
RoR.builders - Black Guard
Currently I use second build with SnB.
2H build might require full 1st tree for all tactics and Crimson Death + Get Down but you must have BIS gear for it.
 
taslis for second spec? stenght or WS?
 
Strength and some Wounds to be close to 8k hp
 
			 
			
					
				Re: PvP Tanks: Their Roles & Viability
				Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:23 pm
				by Fallenkezef
				Something pointed out elsewhere is that dps tanks become the default melee dos class in pugs do to melee classes needing some organised backup.
I have noticed this with my slayer and Ironbreaker.