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Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:27 am
by Skyy
You must decide whether +30 more mainstats or +200 armor is worth the farming.
Math? If you have 8 free slots from items/wep and difference between +24 and +22 is 2? Thinking.
Well getting 200 purple fragments of salvaging is not currently possible. Where is no 40+ purple gear out there.
Worry not, latest changes makes getting them of scavenging almost impossible also, because you will have to spend time equal of getting full conq to get a somewhat decent amount of fragments.
And no, it's not 200 armor, so you don't have to "decide" anything. 200 purple fragment with 175 essence and rest 200 mats gives you +150 armor tali and crits for +180. I've heard you get 200 essence salvaging Anni helm, but don't have a spare one to test. I'm pretty sure (according to crafting add-on) that +180 crit is maximum you can get anyways (armor I mean).
For rest stats it's +22 and +24 crit. Something like 89-120 for resists, I'm not sure
So a 175 purple fragment can not crit to a +24/180 talisman. You need to have a 200/200/200/200 (purple) who critts to get a +24/180. If a +22 crits it gets to +23.
Here is info on how Talismans works:
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/ ... man_Making
Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:14 am
by dansari
Afaik, only Genesis, subjugator, and conq salvaging will net you 200 essences and purple 200 frags.
Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:50 pm
by nocturnalguest
Ow, btw champs at reik is a nice idea, afaik not all of them 40+.
Salvaging subj is brute for sure, haven't thought about that. Item level counts, correct? I don't know what subj item level is, but world drop purple items are 39/39 max so no 200 fragments.
Genesis gives purple? Conq and jewelry should count as rare so it should be blue fragments. Anyone salvaged such stuff?
Yes, 175 fragment won't crit for +180 armor for example, tho using 175 essence instead of 200 doesn't change anything it still gives +150 and +180 on crit, that I'm sure.
Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:04 pm
by dansari
nocturnalguest wrote:Ow, btw champs at reik is a nice idea, afaik not all of them 40+.
Salvaging subj is brute for sure, haven't thought about that. Item level counts, correct? I don't know what subj item level is, but world drop purple items are 39/39 max so no 200 fragments.
Genesis gives purple? Conq and jewelry should count as rare so it should be blue fragments. Anyone salvaged such stuff?
Yes, 175 fragment won't crit for +180 armor for example, tho using 175 essence instead of 200 doesn't change anything it still gives +150 and +180 on crit, that I'm sure.
Yes, I can confirm salvaging conq and genesis gear provides purple 200 fragments and 200 essences. Subjugator does as well. Harbringer gear is 39, like you said, so gives purple 175 frags.
Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:29 pm
by anarchypark
nocturnalguest wrote:Ow, btw champs at reik is a nice idea, afaik not all of them 40+.
Salvaging subj is brute for sure, haven't thought about that. Item level counts, correct? I don't know what subj item level is, but world drop purple items are 39/39 max so no 200 fragments.
Genesis gives purple? Conq and jewelry should count as rare so it should be blue fragments. Anyone salvaged such stuff?
Yes, 175 fragment won't crit for +180 armor for example, tho using 175 essence instead of 200 doesn't change anything it still gives +150 and +180 on crit, that I'm sure.
150 armor tali crit is 164.
all 200 is 164(23). it's crit is 180(24).
anni/merc helm gave 200 purple frag and 200 essence.
few month ago.
Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:52 pm
by nocturnalguest
Well, havent seen 164 armor tali.
Back in a day I did the following:
Mats: 175 essence, 200 curio, 200 dust, 100 container (PQ one, but doesnt matter it gives only +% crit chance).
I've had 5 200 armor purple fragments and created 4 +150 armor tali (rank req 28) and 1 +180 (rank req 36).
200 armor blue fragments gives +124 (rank req 28) and +149 on crit (rank req 36).
Anything changed since then?
Btw, checked anni helm its item level 39, so should be blue fragments now. Tommorow im gonna buy one and salvage for test.
Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:53 am
by Sulorie
Skyy wrote:You must decide whether +30 more mainstats or +200 armor is worth the farming.
Math? If you have 8 free slots from items/wep and difference between +24 and +22 is 2? Thinking.
Well getting 200 purple fragments of salvaging is not currently possible. Where is no 40+ purple gear out there.
Worry not, latest changes makes getting them of scavenging almost impossible also, because you will have to spend time equal of getting full conq to get a somewhat decent amount of fragments.
And no, it's not 200 armor, so you don't have to "decide" anything. 200 purple fragment with 175 essence and rest 200 mats gives you +150 armor tali and crits for +180. I've heard you get 200 essence salvaging Anni helm, but don't have a spare one to test. I'm pretty sure (according to crafting add-on) that +180 crit is maximum you can get anyways (armor I mean).
For rest stats it's +22 and +24 crit. Something like 89-120 for resists, I'm not sure
So a 175 purple fragment can not crit to a +24/180 talisman. You need to have a 200/200/200/200 (purple) who critts to get a +24/180. If a +22 crits it gets to +23.
Here is info on how Talismans works:
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/ ... man_Making
I was in a different game, sorry.
8x 6 stats, is 40-48 stats difference for mainstats between average and talismans and purple lvl32-36 ones, with absurd prices.
50 more intel/bal/str is not that big deal on damage done.
The highest difference is for armor talismans used by robe/light armor classes.
Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:03 am
by Rowanmantle
What is the likelihood of us being able to scavenge players. It was so fun to get purple frags off your enemies dead corpse. On live it was so. Not sure why (client control) it isn't on ror. Perhaps a package they don't have. But in theory. A lvl 40dok killed and scavenged should give 200+ frags. But that was live. Just an interesting thought if it could be brought back?
Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:12 pm
by Egoish
This will probably stop being an issue in a couple of weeks(tm) when dungeons go live. Plenty of 41+ champs to kill and scavenge for purple 200 frags. I'd assume the dungeon starter set will be conq equivalent when the ch22 pq set is roughly between anni and conq so all those extra unneeded drops will turn to 200 essence and frags as well.
Re: Farming lvl 200 fragments.
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:58 pm
by Rowanmantle
Egoish wrote:This will probably stop being an issue in a couple of weeks(tm) when dungeons go live. Plenty of 41+ champs to kill and scavenge for purple 200 frags. I'd assume the dungeon starter set will be conq equivalent when the ch22 pq set is roughly between anni and conq so all those extra unneeded drops will turn to 200 essence and frags as well.
Good point. However . If we are able to scavenge players like it was on live. ( knowing fully well this isn't live) but if it were possible scavenging would be as it was. But dungeons could be another solution. Although a grinding one.