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Collateral
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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#11 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:50 am

People don't seem to know that defense stats from character screen are actually not correct. You get your true stats from .getstats. The true stats will most likely be lower, but since these new changes they are higher overall, as people noticed.

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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#12 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:03 am

Collateral wrote:People don't seem to know that defense stats from character screen are actually not correct. You get your true stats from .getstats. The true stats will most likely be lower, but since these new changes they are higher overall, as people noticed.
With .getstats I can still have 5 parry with 700 WS.
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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#13 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:17 am

isn't it char sheet for pve and .getstats for rvr vs maxed offensive stats?

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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#14 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:32 am

Collateral wrote:People don't seem to know that defense stats from character screen are actually not correct. You get your true stats from .getstats. The true stats will most likely be lower, but since these new changes they are higher overall, as people noticed.
Character window WAS incorrect. now it's more accurate than .getstat. cuz stats have more role in avoidance after patch.
i would say u can believe character window.
though that's b4 enemy strikethrough.
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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#15 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:46 am

Zealot, its not 7. Whaadded disrupt its a flat 10% that tactic. Glorious thing about this game 1v1 isnt a thing. I ignore SMs and all tanks for that matter, thats what sav spec mara's are for. Engies are like magus... Turret class if the engy lets me get to him its a bad day for him and he dies fast.

Lil bit about the mara... U see a mara say goodbye to 1/2 your armor if sac spec, 50% plus 1600 i think due to cut claw. Brut spec 1/2 yoyr armor and about 1000 armor w impale if that mara is flanking you. You get 2 maras on u and it 1 of each... I dont care how much armor u have you dont have any up against them.

I die alot but i spec disrupt because i HATE the BW class with a passion. If i see that fire gliph dot go on me i make it my mission to get to the bw either by a pull or a charge to him and kill him.
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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#16 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:17 am

Collateral wrote:People don't seem to know that defense stats from character screen are actually not correct. You get your true stats from .getstats. The true stats will most likely be lower, but since these new changes they are higher overall, as people noticed.
IIRC, now the stat doll is more accurate because weapon skill gives an increase to parry and willpower gives an increase to disrupt. Getstats doesn't show that (yet)
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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#17 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:31 am

diedrake wrote: I die alot but i spec disrupt because i HATE the BW class with a passion. If i see that fire gliph dot go on me i make it my mission to get to the bw either by a pull or a charge to him and kill him.
that's the spirit! i know a BG who use -magic dmg tactic so he can follow most dangerous BW, using int debuff and interrupt.
force them positioning fear of KD, KB. you can almost see them crying lol, worth than quick death. he said.
i hope order have more melees like you.
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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#18 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:44 am

I even have considered throwing wis tallis in my gear.... Thats how much i hate BWs haha!
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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#19 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:49 am

dansari wrote:
Collateral wrote:People don't seem to know that defense stats from character screen are actually not correct. You get your true stats from .getstats. The true stats will most likely be lower, but since these new changes they are higher overall, as people noticed.
IIRC, now the stat doll is more accurate because weapon skill gives an increase to parry and willpower gives an increase to disrupt. Getstats doesn't show that (yet)
It doesn't show? Didn't actually check getstats yet. It would certainly be useful to know the exact numbers we can trust :P

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Re: DPS AMs post dot nerf/disrupt buff

Post#20 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:09 am

diedrake wrote:Zealot, its not 7. Whaadded disrupt its a flat 10% that tactic.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23384
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=23340

Apparently not, though I'm not personally 100% sure. Seems to be the case from my quick test earlier but that was with 100 trials.
diedrake wrote:I die alot but i spec disrupt because i HATE the BW class with a passion. If i see that fire gliph dot go on me i make it my mission to get to the bw either by a pull or a charge to him and kill him.
Then you're speccing Brush Off for a very specific purpose: to hunt down BWs by the sound of it, which is fair enough but my post was about the usefulness of it in general. I'm still doubtful of how helpful it'd be even in those circumstances, given that Flashfire's a thing.

What tactic are you giving up for it out of curiosity?
Collateral wrote:It doesn't show? Didn't actually check getstats yet. It would certainly be useful to know the exact numbers we can trust :P
Getstats has never (afaik) shown the evasion bonus due to stats (WS/ini/WP), only linear % bonuses from things like renown, tactics and dual-wield. Just have to use the formulas to work out your 'base' chance to avoid then factor in the % modifiers.
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