Return of Reckoning

If you do not attack a blind man alone afk, possibly he will somehow retaliate and kill you ... life of SW, when it was good gave a nerf and put him on the ground. This particular buff does not reflect reality within today's RvR, it seems all very beautiful, in practice you remain weak and no decent escape like an SH has.

Most who defend the class do not play with it =}

Toldavf wrote:If at any point it ever competes with true melee for a pure melee slot it has been over buffed.

Given the ABSOLUTE state of MDPS right now it wouldn't take a whole lot. Just get rid of Mara/WL m1 root already so we can never play MDPS again.

So, you cant even fathom the possibility of not being a prick at all times?

Seriously, if the devs take away ability to do ranged damage in assault stance, then sure give him a melee dps spec that competes with true melee dps. Having a class that can seamlessly transition between good ranged dps and good melee dps would be overpowered, and if you can't see that we have a huge problem.

GodlessCrom wrote:So, you cant even fathom the possibility of not being a prick at all times?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

GodlessCrom wrote:Seriously, if the devs take away ability to do ranged damage in assault stance, then sure give him a melee dps spec that competes with true melee dps. Having a class that can seamlessly transition between good ranged dps and good melee dps would be overpowered, and if you can't see that we have a huge problem.

Its a mdps spec, it will be tweaked around doing its job in melee and if it can do both which surely he cant now, the ranged aspect will get nerfed into the ground, because, well, its a mdps spec.

Arguing that "if my mother had a chimeney and wheels, she would be a vapor train" is pointless because it will never happen, its like saying that tanks should not be durable and do mdps damage or that healers should not be able to heal perfectly while doing rpds damage, no **** sherlock, we know that, you dont have to remind us of simple, basic stuff.

Since Melee SW and Melee SH will be built around melee, they should compete with mdps for mdps slots, thats how balance works. You dont have to remind us that if slayers had a bazooka then it would be a bit overpowered.

Give Slayers a bazooka.

GodlessCrom wrote:So, you cant even fathom the possibility of not being a prick at all times?

Seriously, if the devs take away ability to do ranged damage in assault stance, then sure give him a melee dps spec that competes with true melee dps. Having a class that can seamlessly transition between good ranged dps and good melee dps would be overpowered, and if you can't see that we have a huge problem.

You know, I'd trade all of my ranged skills while being in Assault stance just to be able to compete with other mdps damage values.
I like the idea of being in melee stance and be able to be only mdps. Assault already requires 3 or all 4 tactics which can shine only in melee range. Bow and ranged attacks are used just for debuffs. If you still want to be competent rdps, you have to pick tactics for it and rr points. Btw, if someone didn't know that, your rr points preferences limits your dps potential since characteristics you gain from rr do not transfer, so balli-s is only balli-s, range crit is only range crit. Only defensive stats are flexible, but again it's not about damage dealing

Well people are already talking about how their brutal assualt and all that is critting for 2K and what not right now

ive not had the fortune of critting that hard on my mara or choppa

I too have some concerns right now the spec

I wont deny that i think SW is far too stupidly easy to do well with, and so i have concerns about an mdps class that has burst melee ablities but also strong ranged tools as well

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Its a mdps spec, it will be tweaked around doing its job in melee and if it can do both which surely he cant now, the ranged aspect will get nerfed into the ground, because, well, its a mdps spec.

Arguing that "if my mother had a chimeney and wheels, she would be a vapor train" is pointless because it will never happen, its like saying that tanks should not be durable and do mdps damage or that healers should not be able to heal perfectly while doing rpds damage, no **** sherlock, we know that, you dont have to remind us of simple, basic stuff.

Since Melee SW and Melee SH will be built around melee, they should compete with mdps for mdps slots, thats how balance works. You dont have to remind us that if slayers had a bazooka then it would be a bit overpowered.

I get it, in between bitching on the forums you like to role-play as a melee dps on your Shadow Warrior, but I dunno, maybe redirect that old man rage to something productive. I suggest anger management classes. A stress ball is good budget option for those on a fixed income.

I'm glad this is a Balance Thread so you guys have to make reasonable arguments or risk being banned from the BDF.

Oh, wait, it's just a class thread. Nevermind.

TenTonHammer wrote:Well people are already talking about how their brutal assualt and all that is critting for 2K and what not right now

ive not had the fortune of critting that hard on my mara or choppa

I too have some concerns right now the spec

I wont deny that i think SW is far too stupidly easy to do well with, and so i have concerns about an mdps class that has burst melee ablities but also strong ranged tools as well

2k dmg from one skill on 5 sec cd with positioning requirements on players obviously not stacking defenses while being full glasscannon (under VoN), using three tactics to obtain it. Don't forget the whole story when throwing stuff around Going regular skirm/scout spec will outshine it 10 out of 10 times