Return of Reckoning

porkstar wrote:a two person MDPS can have an unusually greater effect on an already engaged 6 man. Is challenge even available at lvl 10? I don't think my knight had it.

engaged with who? If the 6-man is fighting someone, then you are no longer talking about just 2 WHs.

Penril wrote:

porkstar wrote:a two person MDPS can have an unusually greater effect on an already engaged 6 man. Is challenge even available at lvl 10? I don't think my knight had it.

engaged with who? If the 6-man is fighting someone, then you are no longer talking about just 2 WHs.

Last night players were accusing a six-person of zerging (bullying) in a balanced scenario. I disagree and used the coordinating stealthers as an example.

Penril you busted me. Honestly, my true motivation for commenting on this post is to surreptitiously bump it because Mez spent a lot of time staying up late making it and he was super tired the next day at work and I have a bro crush on him.

I was doing an SC the other night and we outnumbered destro by 1. We ended up spawn camping and destro was like "order noobs, you guys are always zerging".

I think some people need to learn what zerging means.

Penril wrote:I was doing an SC the other night and we outnumbered destro by 1. We ended up spawn camping and destro was like "order noobs, you guys are always zerging".

I think some people need to learn what zerging means.

I think the contemporary definition of 'zerging' is: Doing so well in PvP that you force your opponent to take the hot dog out of his/her mouth, set down the Mountain Dew and think for a second about what they are doing.

Penril: if you don't know who Bambi and Pocohontas are (and you ACT like you don't) then you are completely missing what Porkstar was trying to say. They aren't just two WH's either, are they...They have dedicated heals and maybe tanks.

Stop with the facetious arguments, it makes you sound gassy.

What is a zerg? Hmm. Look it up in the geek wiki, I guess. It should have specifics down to the last decimal.
And get a new forum avatar. the one that you have now doesn't have a pointy-enough head.

Challenger3333 wrote:Penril: if you don't know who Bambi and Pocohontas are (and you ACT like you don't) then you are completely missing what Porkstar was trying to say. They aren't just two WH's either, are they...They have dedicated heals and maybe tanks.

Stop with the facetious arguments, it makes you sound gassy.

What is a zerg? Hmm. Look it up in the geek wiki, I guess. It should have specifics down to the last decimal.
And get a new forum avatar. the one that you have now doesn't have a pointy-enough head.

You sound mad. I don't know why, because i have always been polite to you either in LoL or in vent. Maybe because i killed you last night (and other guildies)? If i'm on order i kill destro, and if i'm on destro i kill order. Don't take it personally.

i know who Adell is (although i don't know Pocahontas old WAR main). They seen to be nice and are good players. They don't always have dedicated heals or tanks though (which is good, i respect people who don't need a 6-man uber leet premade all the time to compete).

Penril wrote:

Challenger3333 wrote:Penril: if you don't know who Bambi and Pocohontas are (and you ACT like you don't) then you are completely missing what Porkstar was trying to say. They aren't just two WH's either, are they...They have dedicated heals and maybe tanks.

Stop with the facetious arguments, it makes you sound gassy.

What is a zerg? Hmm. Look it up in the geek wiki, I guess. It should have specifics down to the last decimal.
And get a new forum avatar. the one that you have now doesn't have a pointy-enough head.

You sound mad. I don't know why, because i have always been polite to you either in LoL or in vent. Maybe because i killed you last night (and other guildies)? If i'm on order i kill destro, and if i'm on destro i kill order. Don't take it personally.

i know who Adell is (although i don't know Pocahontas old WAR main). They seen to be nice and are good players. They don't always have dedicated heals or tanks though (which is good, i respect people who don't need a 6-man uber leet premade all the time to compete).

Pen,

I think he's saying that you sometimes tend to be unable and/or refuse to infer the actual meaning from the poorly constructed, logically unsound, and/or vague statements that people sometimes make. You tend to go for a head shot by inferring worst-case conclusions which often times have nothing to do with the actual meaning of the claim and ridicule the claimant.

With informal discussions, generally, when someone makes a poorly constructed claim or statement whether it be lack of necessary context, emotional appeals, poor grammar, generally confusing paragraph structure etc, a person trying to help could behave differently. Asking questions to help the claimant resolve the structural issues of their argument is a very good strategy because it gets to the crux of the claim thereby allowing the deconstruction of the actual claim's logic to begin. Think of resolving the structural issues as pre-hotting the DPS and tanks. Then, the same strategy of asking questions can be implemented to deconstruct and allow the claimant to falsify their own argument. Socrates was very good at this.

We can practice with the above statement because I'm sure it is riddled with structural issues. Plus I am super bored and don't want to work.

*HANDS OUT POPCORN*

Porkstar: a decent six-person team is still clearly vulnerable to a two-person Mdps team
Penril: No, a decent 6-man is not vulnerable to a two-person Mdps team
Porkstar: Yes they are, if they are already engaged with someone else
Penril: Then this is not a 6v2, it is a 6v2+ (possibly 6v6).
Ooul: You sound gassy.
Penril: u mad?
Porskater: Socrates

/thread

Porkstar: a decent six-person team is still clearly vulnerable to a two-person Mdps team
Penril: No, a decent 6-man is not vulnerable to a two-person Mdps team a baddy one is vulnerable (Pencool's head-shot bait to elicit emotional response from Porkawesome which was unsuccessful)
Porkstar: Yes they are, if they are already engaged with someone else
Penril: Then this is not a 6v2, it is a 6v2+ (possibly 6v6).
Porksweet: Penman is correct therefore a 6-person isn't zerging/bullying in a balanced sc because even they are vulnerable to all sorts of external circumstances
Ooul: You sound gassy.
Penril: u mad?
Porskater: Socrates Is awesome


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