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peterthepan3
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#11 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:57 pm

UltraPrimarch wrote:@ Darosh. I never really understood the kind of ppl that love to reply in a more personal tone than they should, like you did. Anyway, if you do not agree present your arguments using ingame facts like i did, and don't try to tell others what they should or should not ask, especially the way you do, capiche?
Afterall, that's what forums are for, to speak our minds and a way to communicate with devs.

Darosh didn't say anything out of line, so why act all offended?

If you haven't got much time to dedicate to the game, then I'd advise - as with any MMO - you to ask yourself whether it is worth playing at all.

Annihilator/Mercenary gear can be acquired incredibly easily now, and are only marginally worse than their respective upgrades.
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#12 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:08 pm

Devs here taken a stance where the current BiS gear is extremely hard to farm, but the very closest step to it is brought up to a very reasonable farm.

Getting full merc/annihilator is about 3x easier than it was when it was BiS, Genesis gear was basically a myth and now it's pretty damn easy to get in comparison.

This is honestly the best way to do it, the game needs the carrot on a stick because frankly right now it can't stand on gameplay alone for a lot of people.
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dansari
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#13 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:09 pm

Just because you want Overlord doesn't mean you're entitled to Overlord. It's not "impossible" it just takes time. If you don't have the time, update your mindset to be OK with not having the things you want. As with all things in life, you have to invest in the things that are important to you. If Overlord is important, you have to invest time into it. If it's not (or less important than other things), then accept that fact. No one's trying to launch personal attacks at you; we're merely pointing out reality.
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Darosh
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#14 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:11 pm

UltraPrimarch wrote:
Darosh wrote: The issue lies in the fact that you could have presented this 'suggestion' in a more meaningful and appropriate manner.
Sry if my point was not clear for you, i did my best with the knowledge of english i have and tbh, i think it was pretty obvious what i meant. Afterall, it's not nuclear science.
Just by skimming through the forums you could have compiled ten pages worth of complaints from the community.
However, if you had done so you would have stumbled upon statements from RoR staff that - over and over again - denied these kind of wishes.
Thx for mention it. Btw, my post was more like a state of facts than a simple complain.
You miss the point. You are repeating what countless others have stated about a million times already - the same vague elaborations about personal struggles and perception -, whilst you add no arguments whatsoever.
If you had taken your time to source your arguments, to compile those of others or search for staff statements, I wouldn't have raised objections.

Abbd.: Note: Compiling arguments (e.g.: via citation), doesn't require you to be fluent in english. If you struggle with the language, be assured there are, and will be, numerous people willing to help you sort stuff out. Moreso, given the international nature of this server, no one minds clunky englisch either. In all cases its: content&presentation > language.

You can state whatever you want on the forums - I am neither interested in policing what you do, nor am I ought or able to do so -, however you should get used to feedback of all kinds (e.g.: pointing out obvious flaws).
If you don't put effort into your suggestions, don't expect to be praised for them ~ I expect the very same denial, probably even copypasted out of one of the other million threads about the topic, to eventually find its way into this thread.

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Druin
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#15 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:25 pm

Low population in T3 was the reason for the creation of Overlord.
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UltraPrimarch
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#16 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:41 pm

Darosh wrote: You can state whatever you want on the forums - I am neither interested in policing what you do, nor am I ought or able to do so -, however you should get used to feedback of all kinds (e.g.: pointing out obvious flaws).
If you don't put effort into your suggestions, don't expect to be praised for them ~ I expect the very same denial, probably even copypasted out of one of the other million threads about the topic, to eventually find its way into this thread.
M8, i still do not understand what you did not really understood from what i said(?) In general my point was that we spend lots of time with minimum or even no reward at all, and mostly i talked about open rvr. Is there a dark spot you need me to elaborate? I don't have any kind of problem with feedback, on the contrary i welcome it! But it's not logical to repeat yourself saying that i must make my point clear, when im very specific on my arguments i present.

In general, my mistake here is that i'm thinking the way i do on other NON free mmo's, where companies are trying to work on that "time issue" for obvious reasons so they wont lose their customers. Here on the other hand, profit is not an issue so i guess the only question for devs and some of the players is this: "Can you play it? Do it! Otherwise don't bother". But even so, this is not a "healthy" way of thinking, cause the danger of having an almost empty server lurks in the corner.
Again, i'm not talking about making things easy, but logical considering the time that many don't have. And that's a fact, i'm not trying to "hide" behind others to make my argument strong.
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Darosh
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#17 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:04 pm

UltraPrimarch wrote: M8, i still do not understand what you did not really understood from what i said(?) In general my point was that we spend lots of time with minimum or even no reward at all, and mostly i talked about open rvr. Is there a dark spot you need me to elaborate? I don't have any kind of problem with feedback, on the contrary i welcome it! But it's not logical to repeat yourself saying that i must make my point clear, when im very specific on my arguments i present.
Spoiler:
If there is something that is being perceived as an issue, and if there are countless (similar/equal) accounts addressing that issue ~ and lastly if all these accounts have been shutdown in the past, regardless (with legitimate arguments issued by the RoR staff):
Do you think repeating the very same arguments again benefits your cause?

The content and effort I'd wish to see is ultimately necessary to drive the discussion forward (if you take your time and submit an amazing, thorough and convincing assessment, I'll be there up in arms supporting you) - in other words, what you have written (yes, I do unterstand your point, don't you worry) is just the millionth iteration of it.
Do you really think that anyone will bother reading or addressing what already has been addressed countless times?

Don't get me wrong, I see where you are coming from and more importantly I don't mean to be harsh, but you aren't the first one to bring these things up.

Abbd.: Read through the forums, through Torque's and War's post history, threads and statements issued in regads to this topic specifically, to see where I am coming from...
Abbd.: Inb4 "oh the irony, you repeat yourself". You know that forum phenomenon that has people create threads to ask for information that is readily accessible - literally in an instant - by using the forum search function, or threads featuring the very same thing prompting the very same - from iteration to iteration more grumpy - replies?
Abbd.:
TLDR: The repetition of undying arguments without acknowledgment of already issued counter-arguments shows that you have not informed yourself about the topic you are trying to offer input for, that alone invalidates your input.
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Collateral
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#18 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:34 pm

Are you running in organized groups/warbands? If no there is really no point in making these suggestions. I agree that locking takes too long, I would really like to see more than one zone in my play session. But running in organized groups will help you a lot in getting the gear you so much desire. I suggest you try organizing if you are not. This will GREATLY improve your gameplay and experience. I don't mean you have to join a hard core premade, you can simply start by joining CNTK open wb. From the last video they posted, I can say they have really good composition and seem to improve their organization, which is great.

If you are not into warbands, I'm sure there are plenty of groups that will accept new people. There is sort of a 'movement' among the 6man community to inspire more people to group up, which is a great effort.

So all in all, this is a group game, which should be obvious. And as others have mentioned, it's also an MMO. This should really make it obvious to you that some sort of grinding will be present.

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Eathisword
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#19 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:39 pm

Druin wrote:Low population in T3 was the reason for the creation of Overlord.
Could you then be so kind as to give some slaps on the wrist to the ones deserving so they make it a T3 farm only and kindly remove the 500 T4 paragon seals needed :D
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TenTonHammer
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Re: Time is Precious

Post#20 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:23 pm

Thats why i play scenarios and just use scenario weapons and gear

RvR does take ages to lock zones
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