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Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:51 pm
by shaggyboomboom
TenTonHammer wrote:arnagob wrote:
Not really, they are the base tactics

i wasnt talking about mastry point investment tactics
you have limited tac slots and my point is that you cant run or really should not run both auto detuant and speed boost tactics as there are other things you need to slot
the only tactic u should invest in is waaagh! frenzy and its not even that obligatory
Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:03 pm
by anarchypark
TenTonHammer wrote:
you cant commit all that in your tactic slots, only one
there are other things you need slot and run
i thought OP wanted extream survivability.
it's just throwing options, tank shaman looks fun!
and this thread became shaman guidebook for surviving.
i should just move along

Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:04 pm
by Daknallbomb
Run away and Auto detaunt are nearly Standart tacs for every build
Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:34 pm
by TenTonHammer
Daknallbomb wrote:Run away and Auto detaunt are nearly Standart tacs for every build
Guess im not up on the latest shammy builds as i havent really played it post ab changes as much but always figured things like
Aint done yet
Dat makes me dizzy
restorative burst
extra special mushrooms
Dicipline
Get movin
and possibly gork fixed it were things you shouldnt pass up
Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:58 pm
by Daknallbomb
Run away is to to to to to good to not use it. Auto detaunt mayb! But gobbo without Runaway is crazy
Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:19 pm
by Telperien
Daknallbomb wrote:Run away is to to to to to good to not use it. Auto detaunt mayb! But gobbo without Runaway is crazy
I would say gobo without Runaway is not gobo.
Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:04 pm
by Jaycub
>cleansing winds
>resolute defense
>Crafted pot + Medallion pot (These can heal you from 10% to full hp if you are using the good ones)
This the the cheese trifecta you will see just about any top players in guild groups using or at least 2 of them.
Willpower scales like ass because of the flat modifier to a gigantic base value, so feel free to slot up armor talismans, and use defensive gear etc...
Get extremely familiarized with tab and targetnearest + detaunt, a 1 sec difference can easily be the difference between living and dying.
Auto detaunt and speed proc tactics are OP
Know what abilities are priority when you are and aren't heal debuffed (for instance absorbs will be comparatively worth more than any heal you have when you are double debuffed)
always use an armor pot
WL pet can be knocked down with your AoE punt from 30ft? out, the punt is also amazing in general to get pressure off you from melee.
The rest is really about situational awareness, positioning, and triage as a healer. Know what is or is about to be in range that can pose a threat to you, constantly adjust your position so you have an escape route and the least of amount of threats can get to you in the longest amount of time. And never put yourself in a bad position to save someone doing something idiotic. Healer class in this game gives you the best vantage point to watch people do absolutely dumb ****, just pretend you are like some sports caster covering a match and you will not only have fun, but learn a lot about the game and how random people play. And once you really understand the game and watch what people do in PUG sc's you will learn to hate life.
Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:23 am
by Sulorie
Jaycub wrote:And once you really understand the game and watch what people do in PUG sc's you will learn to hate life.
This sums up healer life pretty good.
Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:18 am
by charlysixb
Positioning and an intelligent use of detaunts are vital.
You don't need auto-detaunt for WL. Try to single detaunt on sight always or use fast area detaunt if he reachs to you first ( dont need to click any target with AD )
Don't forget to use Eeeeeek or Punt, its works fantastic to get their dps pressure off you.
Don't go full glass cannon willpower shaman and get defenses like armor/toughness and my favourite xD ( Wounds ).
M2 Focused Mind is priceless to escape in many situations.
In T4 you can use punt with the lion to prevent pulls.
Ohh and never stop moving.
Re: [Shaman] How to survive? Slows, Knockbacks and White Lions.
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:31 am
by ravezaar
The pea-shooter dosent have a natural enemy in the wild so u good