Return of Reckoning

Torquemadra wrote:

peterthepan3 wrote:Loner
Brute Force
Pack Hunting
Tearing Blade

Wasn't that the spec back on live, once you had ample amounts of melee power/str?

I use lionheart over tearing blade unless Im feeling really troll and will slot revenge, send in lion to die, pop primal fury and explode someone.

That works too, only once against decent opposition though =P

Torquemadra wrote:

peterthepan3 wrote:Loner
Brute Force
Pack Hunting
Tearing Blade

Wasn't that the spec back on live, once you had ample amounts of melee power/str?

I use lionheart over tearing blade unless Im feeling really troll and will slot revenge, send in lion to die, pop primal fury and explode someone.

could you send a SS of dmg from that spec? really curious about it.

Look am sorry if I sounded like am trolling and for my bad wording, but I asked around and most people told me that a loner doesn't work and since I didn't find that much success in it when I first started T4 I started to believe that. The case that most people made is that Coordinated strike + pack synergy not to mention Fetch, silence, deadly pounce, are just too powerful to drop for loner tactic, so I was wondering if it's true or if there's an another to compensate for those things.

Again, am sorry for how bad I wrote the post, I was extremely frustrated because I've spent a lot of time grinding on my WL and no one likes to waste their time right? I have Valeo and Ruin now so am kinda better than before gear wise but still, I wonder if there's more stuff to do.

So please, if anyone got any tips or anything that can help me, am all ears.

My guild on live had the stereotypical WL player who hated his pet and cursed his lion every 10 minutes in ts.

But it was my understanding loner was the goto spec because terrible pathing issues on the lion and the fact it was made out of paper. Correct me if I'm wrong but WL pet was buffed here and takes less damage from AoE and even more significantly it has no pathing and simply glides on, up, and through any surface to reach it's target.

Torquemadra wrote:I do just fine with loner

Suprise, the class is not realy under powered , oh but forgot the rework probaly will help woth a buff or two

who ever talked about buff wl ? did i miss something ? Las thing what ive read is make guardian spec viable ! and other spec get a nerf via wl pet die faster ?
or iam wrong ?

Just try Loner. I dont like it and would never spec it. For me it is just bad. An 2h SM with his debuffs can do more damage than a loner specced WL.

What Daknallbomb said. Axemen and Hunterpath will get a nerf due pet nerf.

First i thought aswell guardian path will get a slightly buff and i said i like it. But after thinking about it in my eyes damage wise it will get nerfed aswell even with LF change.

Now the pet gains Strength and WS from the WL. That means if the WL has high str and ws the pet has it aswell and both do the damage.

In future the pet will get str from wounds and ws from thoughnes. The WL will get thougher though but damage wise all three paths get a nerf.

Do people use Trained to Hunter just for the AA tactic or is it the best independent training to apply today?

circassianraven wrote:I was doing some math and stuff and I came to this conclusion, I don't think loner spec works. The lion, coordinated strike, pack synergy and other stuff just over shadow the 25% increase to damage. Not to mention you lose the silences and other utilities.

Is it possible to do some tweaks to make Loner white lions a little more effective? maybe more damage, or lift the restrictions you have on some abilities (like the silence, or maybe the positioning req for some abilities)? Or anything cuz that loner isn't cutting it.

You get independant 25% dmg boost, while you loose so much utilities which are related to have active pet. The same "issue" has squig herder. I strongly recommend to not use All by myself or Loner tactics until You play in bombing warband and all You want to do is raw dmg/AOE spam.