Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:08 pm
I agree - buff SWToXoS wrote:Well, SW is not a good class to play solo anyway.
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Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:38 pm
Hm i have to try some duels vs shs someone want?
Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:20 pm
Wdova wrote:Rather compare DPS am to DPS Shamman and SH to Shadow warrior.
Apologies. I meant to compare the DPS AM to DPS Shaman. I thought SH was for shaman.
Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:45 pm
I fail to see how the Shaman has better burst than an AM as they have the same core skills needed for the "burst" rotation.
The only difference is that an AM doesn't need to rely on casts as it has more DoTs.
Neither will compare to a real dps career, but in a 1v1 even a healing specced Am/Shaman can can knock out a career that can't heal themselves.
The only difference is that an AM doesn't need to rely on casts as it has more DoTs.
Neither will compare to a real dps career, but in a 1v1 even a healing specced Am/Shaman can can knock out a career that can't heal themselves.
Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:52 pm
catholicism198 wrote:I fail to see how the Shaman has better burst than an AM as they have the same core skills needed for the "burst" rotation.
The only difference is that an AM doesn't need to rely on casts as it has more DoTs.
Neither will compare to a real dps career, but in a 1v1 even a healing specced Am/Shaman can can knock out a career that can't heal themselves.
ere we go (especially with tactic) + one of the best toughness debuffs in game + da waagh is coming!
Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:32 pm
catholicism198 wrote:I fail to see how the Shaman has better burst than an AM as they have the same core skills needed for the "burst" rotation.
The only difference is that an AM doesn't need to rely on casts as it has more DoTs.
Neither will compare to a real dps career, but in a 1v1 even a healing specced Am/Shaman can can knock out a career that can't heal themselves.
Just Press er we go brain bursta with toughness debuff tactic + da whaag is comming + bunch o whaag each cast can crit 1,5k + on a unguarded target. Am dont have that and all of tham Hit at the Same time If you cast silence in that Rotation before bunch o whaagh you can Make 5-6 k dmg on a squishy in 1 second
Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:59 am
SH rely on m2 to be able to burst anything .Telen wrote:One huge difference between the two and partially the shammy is if the opponent has cleansing wind. SH can just burst someone down. While an AM will having to reapply a whole rotation. For shaman its not so bad as its only a couple of gcd or they can just go straight into their higher dps burst.
Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:50 am
^ This guy will shamelessly borrow your AP. He doesn't even ask. WTF?gebajger wrote:challenge acceptedToXoS wrote:I've encoutered several AM while solo roaming with my SH, and as far as 1vs1 goes, I never lost any encounters. And tbh I don't think I'm a particularly skilled SH.Wdova wrote:Side to side DPS wise they both have solid single target dmg and 1v1 I would say AM is definitely better.
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Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:37 am
https://youtu.be/X8e-0ujTiaw
smallest burst rotation from shammy ( wihtout any dot ticking and ele debuff)
Just bb + dwic +bow ( every 5-6 seconds rdy ) because hot spam for gork points )
cast time : 2.4 seconds impact time 0.x seconds dmg 3-5 k
if the target is ele debuffed each cast hit about 200-300 more ! and nice add effekt the second cast in the video 12xx crit here hits 9 ppl aoe what can be cool too !
If dots are ticking too about 300-600 dmg per dot ( 3 dots active ) and target is ele debuffed there is a lot of dmg on low impact time possible specialy becaus low cast time from 2.4 seconds for the main burst
am dont have 4 spells with 80ft + range with good direct dmg thats wy am dont have burst like the shammy
*edit* these burst rotation is simple , fast and you dont have something to do before . its one of the fastest burst rotation ingame in that dmg categorie 3-5k wihout any things you have to do before ( just hold gork points up )
My highest hits are brain bursta 1.9k dwic 2.1 and bow with 2.3k
smallest burst rotation from shammy ( wihtout any dot ticking and ele debuff)
Just bb + dwic +bow ( every 5-6 seconds rdy ) because hot spam for gork points )
cast time : 2.4 seconds impact time 0.x seconds dmg 3-5 k
if the target is ele debuffed each cast hit about 200-300 more ! and nice add effekt the second cast in the video 12xx crit here hits 9 ppl aoe what can be cool too !
If dots are ticking too about 300-600 dmg per dot ( 3 dots active ) and target is ele debuffed there is a lot of dmg on low impact time possible specialy becaus low cast time from 2.4 seconds for the main burst
am dont have 4 spells with 80ft + range with good direct dmg thats wy am dont have burst like the shammy
*edit* these burst rotation is simple , fast and you dont have something to do before . its one of the fastest burst rotation ingame in that dmg categorie 3-5k wihout any things you have to do before ( just hold gork points up )
My highest hits are brain bursta 1.9k dwic 2.1 and bow with 2.3k
Re: DPS AM Vis-a-vis DPS SH
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:08 pm
Dakn, I don't see Big Waaagh in your rotations. Why? It has almost the same dmg as Waaagh is coming, but only 1 sec cast time. No AOE though. U don`t use it at all or only for short range rotation?Daknallbomb wrote:https://youtu.be/X8e-0ujTiaw
smallest burst rotation from shammy ( wihtout any dot ticking and ele debuff)
Just bb + dwic +bow ( every 5-6 seconds rdy ) because hot spam for gork points )
cast time : 2.4 seconds impact time 0.x seconds dmg 3-5 k
if the target is ele debuffed each cast hit about 200-300 more ! and nice add effekt the second cast in the video 12xx crit here hits 9 ppl aoe what can be cool too !
If dots are ticking too about 300-600 dmg per dot ( 3 dots active ) and target is ele debuffed there is a lot of dmg on low impact time possible specialy becaus low cast time from 2.4 seconds for the main burst
am dont have 4 spells with 80ft + range with good direct dmg thats wy am dont have burst like the shammy
*edit* these burst rotation is simple , fast and you dont have something to do before . its one of the fastest burst rotation ingame in that dmg categorie 3-5k wihout any things you have to do before ( just
hold gork points up )
My highest hits are brain bursta 1.9k dwic 2.1 and bow with 2.3k