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Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:58 pm
by wargrimnir
Daknallbomb wrote:
wargrimnir wrote:
Daknallbomb wrote: Oh thats very cool are there some screens about that items?
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Their Subjugator weapon and back piece are both Willpower/Wounds/Initiative. I think Torque was planning on making a couple jewelry pieces for the purple bag. Maybe one of those could have Int on it.

Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:46 pm
by Acidic
RyanMakara wrote:As far as I'm aware, healing contribution works the same as it does in PvE PQs. I could be wrong, however. In any case, there is no way to compare PvE healing with PvP healing, as you tend to only have a party for a PQ, and RvR contains many more numbers. We'll have to check the number of Conqueror/Subjugator items people have gotten so far, and see which archetypes have gotten the luckiest. You need to keep in mind that contribution is still a work in progress, and it'll be a long time before its RNG nature can be ultimately destroyed, especially for healers.
Good to know you guys will look into it. Just now it seems (obviously I don't have stats for it) that dps is favored with conqorer and keeps by tanks by how the damage is given taken with healers falling behind.

Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:29 pm
by roadkillrobin
All you need to do is look at the Armory front page sorted by renown and see how evenly distributed among archetypes stuff gets when kills is the highest contributing factor on pretty much everything.

Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:43 pm
by RyanMakara
roadkillrobin wrote:All you need to do is look at the Armory front page sorted by renown and see how evenly distributed among archetypes stuff gets when kills is the highest contributing factor on pretty much everything.
Renown gain does not correlate with PQ contribution though, try again.

Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:10 pm
by roadkillrobin
RyanMakara wrote:
roadkillrobin wrote:All you need to do is look at the Armory front page sorted by renown and see how evenly distributed among archetypes stuff gets when kills is the highest contributing factor on pretty much everything.
Renown gain does not correlate with PQ contribution though, try again.
Not sure what PQ's has to do with it?
Kills is the the highest factor of contribution of gains in this game. It gives, renown,xp, medalions, emblems and RVR contribution. Are you saying that this isn't relfected by looking at the Armory of highest renown players? Try again.

Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:39 pm
by Daknallbomb
Well the chance to See New items on high renown Player is higher Simply cause they play more

Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:41 pm
by roadkillrobin
Daknallbomb wrote:Well the chance to See New items on high renown Player is higher Simply cause they play more
And dps classes play more coz they can leach kills while tanks and healers are depending on groups all the time.

Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:33 pm
by Dabbart
High RR means you are A, active and B, don't invest time on Alts.

Subjugator cloak is awesome. Snagged on my AM, is nice:)

Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:38 am
by RyanMakara
roadkillrobin wrote:
RyanMakara wrote:
roadkillrobin wrote:All you need to do is look at the Armory front page sorted by renown and see how evenly distributed among archetypes stuff gets when kills is the highest contributing factor on pretty much everything.
Renown gain does not correlate with PQ contribution though, try again.
Not sure what PQ's has to do with it?
Kills is the the highest factor of contribution of gains in this game. It gives, renown,xp, medalions, emblems and RVR contribution. Are you saying that this isn't relfected by looking at the Armory of highest renown players?
The topic here was on RvR zone contribution, which works like a PQ. Bringing up the topic of renown to prove certain archetypes get better contribution is a false equivalence, as kills are not the only thing that nets you contribution in RvR. Renown and XP is shared evenly with your group upon a kill, even if you get a deathblow. A killstealer out of party will only gain a fraction of your own damage contribution. I will however agree with the loot; deathblows in RvR gets you all the loot contribution.

Re: Concqueror drop for healers

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:31 am
by roadkillrobin
The topic is about loot roll contribution for healers and not Zone contribution as far as I undrstand it. Considering topic is called, "Concqueror drop for healers" And considering a lone dps gets something and a lone healer gets nothing while running next to organized group you can easily see why out of the top 20 rr players 75% are dps classes. And you're moast likly gonna get simular numbers if you do a number crunch on were Conq medalions have dropped. Coz those are the archetype that befenits from roaming around solo and are able to grind medalions consistantly and better.