Return of Reckoning

gotharg wrote:Does melee power bypass toughness ?

It doesn't. STR/MP add bonus dmg, TOU/Fortitude reduces it. Both MP and Fortitude was added later on as a means to stack dmg and counteract said dmg beyond normal STR/TOU cap of 1050

The ratio was always 1 to 1 but power didnt offer def strikethrues.

gotharg wrote:Does melee power bypass toughness ?

yes
5 toughness = -1 dps from opponents attack (doesn't matter if that dps comes from str/mp) etc

gotharg wrote:Does melee power bypass toughness ?

No, but the cap on stats. If you have 1050 Strength for example the effectivness every further point of your strength will be reduced, halfed I belief but I am not sure about that. Meleepower wont be diminished.

Sorry, I'm confused and I guess I've never thought about it until now. Based on Torque's response, it's correct to say that 15 of X power = 10 of X main stat in terms of raw damage (but main stat still gives you the other bonuses and is still capped at 1050)? And so does that mean I need to get 15 of X power to have the same damage output as 10 of X main stat?

Is there a relatively detailed guide that lays this out? I would be interested in browsing it.

Torquemadra wrote:Given the additionals built into main stat points mythic set X power at 1.5 against 1 main stat and that is continued here.

This info doesn't go along with what client is showing.

Currently my bw has;
928 int -> 185.6 DMG bonus -> 928 / 185.6 = 5
63 MP -> 12.6 DMG bonus -> 63 / 12.6 = 5
991 int + MP -> 198.2 DMG bonus Total -> 991 / 198.2 = 5
As far as i can remember it was always like that [1:1 ratio]. The only difference was that power didn't reduce the defenses but was not affected by debuffs of any sort.

May be showing wrong on paper doll but .getstats aint giving us DMG bonus to compare it with so have to trust the paper doll values.

If it is indeed a 1.5:1 ration then so be it, just confusing and clashes with my recollection from retail.

Torquemadra wrote:

BreezeKicker wrote:

Torquemadra wrote:Given the additionals built into main stat points mythic set X power at 1.5 against 1 main stat and that is continued here.

This info doesn't go along with what client is showing.

Currently my bw has;
928 int -> 185.6 DMG bonus -> 928 / 185.6 = 5
63 MP -> 12.6 DMG bonus -> 63 / 12.6 = 5
991 int + MP -> 198.2 DMG bonus Total -> 991 / 198.2 = 5
As far as i can remember it was always like that [1:1 ratio]. The only difference was that power didn't reduce the defenses but was not affected by debuffs of any sort.

May be showing wrong on paper doll but .getstats aint giving us DMG bonus to compare it with so have to trust the paper doll values.

If it is indeed a 1.5:1 ration then so be it, just confusing and clashes with my recollection from retail.

Top str talisman gave 24, top MP talisman gave 36 this is from live. Also what is this "client info" to which you are referring? How do you account for things such as strikethrough. Straight damage isnt the only thing that adds to value.

What stat value do you have in disrupt? Parry etc?

As I said, additionals.

Seems we are talking about diff things then. I did not state that stat value is on 1:1 ration, I was merely stating that the DMG bonus value is the same same for both, as that was the main focus of previous post and what others were focusing on, the bonus DMG values per points.

how to make MP talsiman??? if it is 36, must better than 24 str!!!

Chinesehero wrote:how to make MP talsiman??? if it is 36, must better than 24 str!!!

MP are not in the game yet, mate.