General state of classes and Order/Destruction

[Daknallbomb]

Destro is a bit better, a lot of major things order side got nerfed.

>knight crit gutted to 10%/5%
>leading shots cut in half
>triple shatter gone
>White lion 10 sec pounce
>Keg nerfed to group only (big hit to ORvR)

Destro still has it's insane morale pumps which are much more effective on this server than on live because of morale gain, dok M2 got nerfed from titanlike to godlike status. Mara got a small nerf to thunderous blow uptime.

Balance is ongoing tho, and it might just be people not wanting to open up nerf this proposals on balance forums.

For all general purposes, RDPS are much better than MDPS right now. Some really good changes to AM/Shaman made them comeptitive with the other healers now. You pretty much can't go wrong if you roll anything that isn't a MDPS or IB/BG.

Hmmm most Things here not true.. Order grps with kotbs + sw still can buff crit stats where destru can dream for.. As i heared from most engi players keg was Just a "gimmik" and has nearly nö impact on orvr If u play competiv. And the Argument with Moral pump.... Well in orvr destru need Moral 4 where order need Moral 2 to push effektiv

[TenTonHammer]

Also to mention a lot of bugs that were present on live have been fixed like Maras piercing bite bug

[Jaycub]

Hmmm most Things here not true.. Order grps with kotbs + sw still can buff crit stats where destru can dream for.. As i heared from most engi players keg was Just a "gimmik" and has nearly nö impact on orvr If u play competiv. And the Argument with Moral pump.... Well in orvr destru need Moral 4 where order need Moral 2 to push effektiv

BG+Mara+BO can buff crit on a target by ~30%? Crimson death, deeply impaled, and ini steal. Destro can actually stack more crit than order now, granted you have to run a 2h BG over chosen.

Why does destro need morale 4 to push?

[Osred]

Well in orvr destru need Moral 4 where order need Moral 2 to push effektiv

Hoajun literally said their warbands in the Morale Gain thread they push on M2s and dont bother with M4s. LNM also push on M2s. Your point is moot.

[Azarael]

That sounds a lot better than it was when the official version was live. Crit has always been a horrid mechanic in MMOs as it reduces the skill required to win when an enormous amount of damage/healing is caused by chance.

This comment just made me go wow ...

It's objectively true. RNG opposes skill.

[sotora]

On a case of faction balance. With RDPS being both so plenty and powerful, kiting is more required and more often used. Order has 2 ranged 100 feet KD.

[Daknallbomb]

Hmmm most Things here not true.. Order grps with kotbs + sw still can buff crit stats where destru can dream for.. As i heared from most engi players keg was Just a "gimmik" and has nearly nö impact on orvr If u play competiv. And the Argument with Moral pump.... Well in orvr destru need Moral 4 where order need Moral 2 to push effektiv

BG+Mara+BO can buff crit on a target by ~30%? Crimson death, deeply impaled, and ini steal. Destro can actually stack more crit than order now, granted you have to run a 2h BG over chosen.

Why does destro need morale 4 to push?

bg+bo ? a grp wihtout choosen hrhr sure -.- u will dont see that often so its not realistic . a grp with kotbs + sw u see everywhere
Wy destru needs morale 4 ? order bw morale 2 engi morale 2 and sw morale 2 slayer morale 2 bombs the **** oaut of wbs
just mara morale 2 and choppa (but choppa rky not that effektiv for aoe than slayer ) well and all tanks morale 2 has dmg on both sides . thats wy destru need morale drains and push like hell cause morale 2 is easy to get
and btw how bg+mara+bo can give a whole grp 30% crit ?

[peterthepan3]

deeply impaled/crimson death/BO ini steal.

[Daknallbomb]

deeply impaled/crimson death/BO ini steal.

ah right ty

[Bozzax]

-Bo 2x wespon skill buff bugfixed
-Sm resist debuffs buggfixed (they stack now)
-Slayer ID buggfixed made cleandable
-Wl pounce buggfixed (never missfires in ROR)
-Mara pb buggfixed (only mutation abilities)
-Pets are stronger I think and if I'm not misstaken get grp heals
-Pets move a tad quicker - buggfix
-cho/kotbs auras are on/off
-sorc SOD buggfixed to trigger on hit (was a dot on WAR)