Return of Reckoning

bwdaWAR wrote:Sorcs have better hair. They're also all married to Malekith. ...the females, anyways. Why would anyone want to play a BW?

sorcs also have legs for days

"Shades of Death" > BW + All other order classes.

/sarcasm

Most classes have some thing their mirror doesnt. I'd love Infernal Gift, the sorc melee disarm, the Goblin run speed racial tac , the Orc crit damage increase racial tac, the morale pump on block tactic which allows m4's to be cycled, dok aoe heal debuff. All kinds of things.

Grass is always greener on the other side.

Also to those complaining about Engi keep in mind Magus' damage is limited by resistances which has a cap around 50%. Engi's deal with Armour which has no cap.

Osred wrote:Most classes have some thing their mirror doesnt. I'd love Infernal Gift, the sorc melee disarm, the Goblin run speed racial tac , the Orc crit damage increase racial tac, the morale pump on block tactic which allows m4's to be cycled, dok aoe heal debuff. All kinds of things.

Grass is always greener on the other side.

Also to those complaining about Engi keep in mind Magus' damage is limited by resistances which has a cap around 50%. Engi's deal with Armour which has no cap.

as u said grass is always greener on the otherside .
infernal gift is useles,morale pump nerfed , dok aoe heal debuff need a critic and is 30 feet ... about magus u have to deal with disrupt wich is way way harde to byspass than ofc dodge....

This is purely anecdotal but I remember playing a WH during AoR and Pit of Shades being a literal PoS during sieges. You couldn't even get to the oil without dancing through a hundred wells of doom.

analoghermit wrote:This is purely anecdotal but I remember playing a WH during AoR and Pit of Shades being a literal PoS during sieges. You couldn't even get to the oil without dancing through a hundred wells of doom.

Replace WH with WE and Pit of Shades with Rain of Fire and its the exact same situation. Not really sure where you were going with this anecdote.

Osred wrote:Most classes have some thing their mirror doesnt. I'd love Infernal Gift, the sorc melee disarm, the Goblin run speed racial tac , the Orc crit damage increase racial tac, the morale pump on block tactic which allows m4's to be cycled, dok aoe heal debuff. All kinds of things.

Grass is always greener on the other side.

Also to those complaining about Engi keep in mind Magus' damage is limited by resistances which has a cap around 50%. Engi's deal with Armour which has no cap.

Devs already said that they are not going to let the issues such as armor stacking that occurred on live, occur in this game among other changes from live


So the whole armor thing is a moot argument plus engies have more utlity with keg

Sorcs have a disarm. Bw doesnt

Osred wrote:Most classes have some thing their mirror doesnt. I'd love Infernal Gift, the sorc melee disarm, the Goblin run speed racial tac , the Orc crit damage increase racial tac, the morale pump on block tactic which allows m4's to be cycled, dok aoe heal debuff. All kinds of things.

Grass is always greener on the other side.

Also to those complaining about Engi keep in mind Magus' damage is limited by resistances which has a cap around 50%. Engi's deal with Armour which has no cap.

Riiiiiight, except infernal gift doesnt hold up too much to other tactics you get. And yes sorc melee disarm is something BW dont have, i forgot about that (actually thought they did have it). And i'm completely fine with mirrors having different abilities that the other doesn't as long as the other has an ability with the same value. My argument is that that is simply just not the case with the BW Sorc mirror.

We could say okay BW has a knockdown, but Sorc has a disarm, now even though I think an instant KD is objectively better than a casted disarm, one could argue that the sorc's disarm holds the same value as the KD. But how do you make that argument with the other abilities I listed? Especially the cleanse, wtf that has so much defensive value, what do sorcs have with the same value as a cleanse, that BW's dont have??

Osred wrote:Most classes have some thing their mirror doesnt. I'd love Infernal Gift, the sorc melee disarm, the Goblin run speed racial tac , the Orc crit damage increase racial tac, the morale pump on block tactic which allows m4's to be cycled, dok aoe heal debuff. All kinds of things.

Grass is always greener on the other side.

Also to those complaining about Engi keep in mind Magus' damage is limited by resistances which has a cap around 50%. Engi's deal with Armour which has no cap.

This argument is invalid in RoR. Engi has faster burst and better morales in RoR.