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elk76
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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#11 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:04 pm

+1
I was there and the fight was awesome
great fight in both factions
the Bag should be the the perfect reward after the Amazing siege

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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#12 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:30 pm

Nekkma wrote:
saupreusse wrote:
You really like the current system? ô.Ô
The current system as in a defence tick with a chance to spawn a chest, yes.
Ahh, I thought you mean the RvR in general. 8-)
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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#13 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:33 pm

hey everyone,

i think, it will be worth to implement a bag too but also think about when ppl defending with 400% aao like the past 3 days in T3.
Spending money in oil and siege weapon for nothing, fighting 1 vs 6 or more.
I agreed with GM and dev on oil influence reward , but in this state it is worth defending against a far more group ?


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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#14 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:38 pm

yesturday it was 79% order in t3 3+ wb's and order will get rewards from locking zones destro will just be zergd and not rly gain much current sitatsion in t2 and t3 is half a joke since we had 2 wb's and 1 left to help order deffend when we had the numbers after we took 1 keep so beeing destro in lower tiers dosent work with the no reward/xrealmer problem as it is now
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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#15 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:23 pm

Unfortunatley OP we have tried the system with keep bags for defending being rewarded every time. It resulted in players sitting in the keep refusing to move out and engage in open RvR because there was a chance to get a roll on the gold bags at the keep.

The situation resulted in which ever side was attacking taking all the BOs, seiging the keep and then being confronted with a large volume of defenders who sat inside waiting for the keep to be lit up, the defence tick counter initiated and then proceed to wipe the attackers.

As a result this was changed to an on chance to produce a keep bag for defending if the outer door was destroyed and the inner door or champion guard attacked or killed.
This change was made to encourage open RvR fighting and draw the fights away from being centered around the keeps alone.
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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#16 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:51 pm

The current system discourages factions from sitting inside a keep waiting for a defense bag. Typically when you're on the defense, you're outnumbered. You have AAO renown bonus and can instantly respawn within the keep if you die with zero penalty. You can make great renown gains and medallions with a small chance of receiving a purple bag (which, let's be real, are far more sought after than a gold.) The devs rightfully removed the ability to steal someone else's oil, renown gain from solo oil dumpers, and removed guaranteed bag drops from defense and lo and behold, rvr has been raging in the lakes, and order has gone on the offensive. I also might add that destros fearless, alone and unafraid oil dumper/oil thief/highest RR player has subsequently quit. All changes for the better.
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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#17 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:42 am

Bozzax wrote:
The fight yielded half a renown bar
(+Medallions)

You want more? :?

Trust me , it is not as rewarding as it sounds ...

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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#18 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:47 am

elk76 wrote:+1
I was there and the fight was awesome
great fight in both factions
the Bag should be the the perfect reward after the Amazing siege

It would be logical , fair and to be expected after our outer gate was destoyed !
It was mayhem indeed !

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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#19 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:08 am

Grobbok wrote:for me better is when you have rewards from attacking
so 300rp for defend is enough
but you want bag? look: let say attackers attack keep many time and always fail, so defenders can get as many bags as attackers trying to attack
so many bags for just staying in keep and only 1 bag for take keep, it is not good
ppl again start only to defend
that game need more action, more movement, changing zones, taking and retaking keeps
if you stay 4 hours in one zone trying take one keep, for me it is something wrong
What? :?:

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Re: Current situation , in Keep defence rewards .

Post#20 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:13 am

Jail wrote:
Grobbok wrote:for me better is when you have rewards from attacking
so 300rp for defend is enough
but you want bag? look: let say attackers attack keep many time and always fail, so defenders can get as many bags as attackers trying to attack
so many bags for just staying in keep and only 1 bag for take keep, it is not good
ppl again start only to defend
that game need more action, more movement, changing zones, taking and retaking keeps
if you stay 4 hours in one zone trying take one keep, for me it is something wrong
What? :?:
I think he is refering to last night where we had fight in praag from 17.00-01.00, since both dwarf/elf was locked for order and never unlocks before everything is captured
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