The game will restart?

[Kragg]

There is nothing anyone has that is worth wiping.

For now. I think a no-wipe policy is foolish if they want to attract fresh blood when the game is close to the finish line. No-one wants to join a server where 90% of the pop is maxed out to the teeth and all the server history has already been forged. Not to mention bug abuse and/or feature exploitation while things are under construction during the 1-2 year run up to release. Just seems silly to me. No game has ever kept its players assets accrued during the course of alpha/beta. What about the economy?

I fully agree with this statement.

[xxstealthxx]

There is nothing anyone has that is worth wiping.

For now. I think a no-wipe policy is foolish if they want to attract fresh blood when the game is close to the finish line. No-one wants to join a server where 90% of the pop is maxed out to the teeth and all the server history has already been forged. Not to mention bug abuse and/or feature exploitation while things are under construction during the 1-2 year run up to release. Just seems silly to me. No game has ever kept its players assets accrued during the course of alpha/beta. What about the economy?

Please list the the Level 9-10 items that are game-breaking -- Especially when many will become obsolete at Level 12+.

I'll start that list.

1). Uh... ummm... ???

[Azarael]

You missed his point. He said when the game is close to the finish line. However, this issue affects all MMOs at some point or another, and I see no reason to wipe the game because of it. The only exception is for major exploits at T4, by which point I think the attitude to server moderation will have changed on RoR.

[Kragg]

There is nothing anyone has that is worth wiping.

For now. I think a no-wipe policy is foolish if they want to attract fresh blood when the game is close to the finish line. No-one wants to join a server where 90% of the pop is maxed out to the teeth and all the server history has already been forged. Not to mention bug abuse and/or feature exploitation while things are under construction during the 1-2 year run up to release. Just seems silly to me. No game has ever kept its players assets accrued during the course of alpha/beta. What about the economy?

Please list the the Level 9-10 items that are game-breaking -- Especially when many will become obsolete at Level 12+.

I'll start that list.

1). Uh... ummm... ???

He states close to the finish line.

[Barbadian]

There is nothing anyone has that is worth wiping.

For now. I think a no-wipe policy is foolish if they want to attract fresh blood when the game is close to the finish line. No-one wants to join a server where 90% of the pop is maxed out to the teeth and all the server history has already been forged. Not to mention bug abuse and/or feature exploitation while things are under construction during the 1-2 year run up to release. Just seems silly to me. No game has ever kept its players assets accrued during the course of alpha/beta. What about the economy?

Please list the the Level 9-10 items that are game-breaking -- Especially when many will become obsolete at Level 12+.

I'll start that list.

1). Uh... ummm... ???

Reading Comprehension Level: 0.

See i can be patronising too!

A wipe is completely necessary if you ask me. Who can refute this with good reason as to why a few hundred of the active players should have everything (including maxed out twinks at every tier) while newcomers have to start from the bottom and enjoy being creamed over and over again when RoR is finished?

Granted this is an issue with all established MMO's, but most servers retain its original player base from launch with little fluctuation in its player pop. RoR on the other hand will likely be a single server to begin with, so newcomers and fresh blood will have no choice but to put up with hundreds of maxed out end-gamers and twinks.

The majority of population for ROR will arrive when RoR is in its final state. And this new majority will just be ruled over by the few hundred minority of players who have been farming, exploiting and twinking since the very beginning. It's simply not fun or intriguing for anyone interested in coming to RoR.

[Azarael]

The majority of population for ROR will arrive when RoR is in its final state.

This bolded assertion is not necessarily correct. As additional functionality is added to the game, more players will return. I for one am actually happy with the way the RoR project is going to proceed, as I think it will outline how the game's design and balance were shattered by later items. You also have to note that the functionality is being added a little at a time - it's not difficult, if one truly cares about the RoR project, to keep up with the content as and when it's released.

Finally, for those of us who are choosing to play in the alpha, why should we lose our items at T4? That's going to annoy the core players who stuck with the server in its infancy.

[Orcpacolypse]

It can't be that hard to get a toon to the same standard as the best of twinks. I half way there after maybe 3 days playing on and off. Think we pondering hypothetical's really, we have yet to cross that bridge into T2 or beyond.