Return of Reckoning

Both tanks and tanks in general have allot more damage at this level than they usually would. This is partially because of the merc set and probably not totally class based. These tanks where so scorned on live and yet now they are essential.

So what gives

Toldavf wrote:Both tanks and tanks in general have allot more damage at this level than they usually would. This is partially because of the merc set and probably not totally class based. These tanks where so scorned on live and yet now they are essential.

So what gives

SM has more damage now because of the tactic proc's critting. Apart from that, I'm not sure there are any other changes.

Aoe snares are better now than before because of the absence of odjira/sandstorm crystals. That might be one reason that blorcs are in favour. But then, that should apply to IBs as well.

Are the SM/BO knockdowns still at the 9-point mark in the respectivemastery paths? If so, it is easier for them to spec the knockdown than it used to be. I don't know how many are taking advantage of that though. Speccing into Vaul will still put a dent in your dps if you are playing an SM.

to be a decent BO DPS assist you need to have at least NIDF from Brawler (I get thc too) and the aoe snare from boss, so you can't get the KD. normally i rely on 2nd tank to provide the KD.

Toldavf wrote:Both tanks and tanks in general have allot more damage at this level than they usually would. This is partially because of the merc set and probably not totally class based. These tanks where so scorned on live and yet now they are essential.

So what gives

It's almost as if adding tons of power creep and extra items/abilities/procs into the game causes class balance to be weakened and obscured

peterthepan3 wrote:to be a decent BO DPS assist you need to have at least NIDF from Brawler (I get thc too) and the aoe snare from boss, so you can't get the KD. normally i rely on 2nd tank to provide the KD.

Yeah but at the same time You Missed Me stacks with crippling stikes for 45% reduction in physical DPS

TenTonHammer wrote: Yeah but at the same time You Missed Me stacks with crippling stikes for 45% reduction in physical DPS

Who cares about a single target 20% dmg debuff for 10seconds with a 20seconds cd when you can get aoe snare.

to be fair you can get all of the key abilities if you get YMM, but I don't really want to give up THC due to its ap efficiency (you can use it very frequently for 0 AP) and its good burst.

Bretin wrote: In 6vs6 though i see destru slightly above order but that's more likely related to the overall double class meta and some cheese possibilities. If the marauder healdebuff would finally be changed into an outgoing, the morale cheese would be 100% justified considering the overall order support benefits.

Imo this would be a buff to Destro and you probably know it

Bretin wrote:Anyway I understand your concern and it's undeniable that destru can cheese way better than order. Double DoK combined with Chosen and BO grants 4 oh snap buttons.

This right here... I feel the double dok is more an issue than the morale pump. Double M2 cleanse and the ability to cleanse all of order's inc HD... So unless you burry that HD deep into a plurality of other stuff... it'll get cleanse fast.

It is also another point in favor of SM : they can help to mask HD using their hex. IB have curse and are useless... boohoo

#buffIB #GrumblenMutter

IB can't be cleansed my DoK except for M2. Must be useless