Return of Reckoning

DefinitelyNotWingz wrote: Stop the salt already mursi. Tiring to see you flaming us in every of your horrible posts.

LMAO - you must be joking. Linking a 6v6 video posted by your own groupmember showing the power of swordmaster in a thread directly asking about swordmaster in 6v6 and you're upset?

You seem really sensitive bud. Perhaps the salt lies on your end. Please show me where flaming occurred in my post. What a joke.

mursie wrote:

Mantiyeah wrote: Swrodmaster or archmage?

between the two, I'd say swordmaster.

It has been proven to have beaten the predominant destro meta 6v6 comp.

https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/61452718

Archmage just isn't proven at the moment in 6v6 meta.

hmmm i think the overall performance hardly depends on the tier/level cap we have been stuck at. at 36 the sm had a strong performance and was able to beat the predominant destru 6vs6 comp in 1/10+ fights. the video you linked shows this perfectly fine.

4 level below on the other hand he got steam rolled by an equal setup.

http://youtu.be/PZnUJnteJzc

some might think this could also be related to the lower quality of gameplay shown by those groups but honestly i think veterans like nydig and you do perfectly know what they are doing. thats why i suggest to wait for some quality t4 fights before we either rate him good or bad or even go into some balance discussions. 4 lvls are 4 lvls.

mursie wrote:

DefinitelyNotWingz wrote: Stop the salt already mursi. Tiring to see you flaming us in every of your horrible posts.

LMAO - you must be joking. Linking a 6v6 video posted by your own groupmember showing the power of swordmaster in a thread directly asking about swordmaster in 6v6 and you're upset?

You seem really sensitive bud. Perhaps the salt lies on your end. Please show me where flaming occurred in my post. What a joke.

Funny.
Sad for anybody who was interested in the topic.
So the derail begins.

Bretin wrote: hmmm i think the overall performance hardly depends on the tier/level cap we have been stuck at. at 36 the sm had a strong performance and was able to beat the predominant destru 6vs6 comp in 1/10+ fights. the video you linked shows this perfectly fine.

4 level below on the other hand he got steam rolled by an equal setup.

http://youtu.be/PZnUJnteJzc

some might think this could also be related to the lower quality of gameplay shown by those groups but honestly i think veterans like nydig and you do perfectly know what they are doing. thats why i suggest to wait for some quality t4 fights before we either rate him good or bad or even go into some balance discussions. 4 lvls are 4 lvls.

excellent points. I agree that any prior tier fights probably do not accurately prove the viability, or lack there of, of any class in this game. Further, introducing videos that don't specifically relate to 6v6 really have zero merit towards discussing their viability, especially in a thread about their 6v6 viability. Not to mention, introducing a class's viability based on videos where said class is four levels below the level cap that was in place at that particular point in time isn't a very accurate representation of the class.

Thus, I think we agree that making hasty generalizations with absurd hyperbole like a class has been "proven" to be the best or viable would therefore not be prudent, actually rather stupid or silly given such limited sampling or contrived conditions.

Still, with regards to the OP, I believe the SM thus far has been shown to be more versatile in the 6v6 domain than the Archmage. This doesn't mean that will continue, but the precedent thus far would lean that way.

mursie wrote:
Still, with regards to the OP, I believe the SM thus far has been shown to be more versatile in the 6v6 domain than the Archmage. This doesn't mean that will continue, but the precedent thus far would lean that way.

I think it is just that you dont have any 6on6 experience and have to make things up.


SM SnB
https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/57057930

SM 2h
https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/62811865


AM 1-3-2 setup where he has his place

https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/56233449
https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/56233165
https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/56232760


@ OP: Listen to the guys who know what they talk about. I played AM and SM in 6on6. Both absolutely viable.
Wouldnt buff either.

DefinitelyNotWingz wrote:Stop the salt already mursi. Tiring to see you flaming us in every of your horrible posts.

DefinitelyNotWingz wrote: I think it is just that you dont have any 6on6 experience and have to make things up.

hypocrite much?

mursie wrote:

DefinitelyNotWingz wrote:Stop the salt already mursi. Tiring to see you flaming us in every of your horrible posts.

DefinitelyNotWingz wrote: I think it is just that you dont have any 6on6 experience and have to make things up.

hypocrite much?

Makes no sense.

Annyyy which way before this thread completely degenerates into a bar fight can we get back to the matter at hand? To really answer your question manti let me ask you some things what kind of focus would you like your premade to have? melee or rdps? and what kind of dps will you like to run? Are you planning to for pugmades or join a guild that runs premades?

Don't start with this again peoplez.

I would like to point out my sm also was using all greens in that video and I am also the first to admit im a terrible tank lol.

So judging any tank viability by my play of it is not a good idea

P.S. you all need to stop involving me in your pissing contests.