Return of Reckoning

solid fights, post on 3 tanks being the new meta inc... and im with bretin i muted the music but to each his own

dont get me wrong i dont wanna cause drama or derail into a flame war but why do you guys call it your toughest/hardest fight? i mean you were losing to our rdps setup for example. wasnt that one harder since it was a loss? the latest fight was more or less even imho. you killed our lowbie wl 4 times, me one time and we killed your dps & heal one and two times. was really a tough match but i dont understand how it can be harder than a total defeat.

That RP Hellwalkah is really good!

there are no def tanks anymore be it snb or not ^^

wondering: is it just me or are 99% of the 6man premades now full melee dps. i didnt see a rdps for weeks in any 6vs6 somehow.

Tiggo wrote:there are no def tanks anymore be it snb or not ^^

wondering: is it just me or are 99% of the 6man premades now full melee dps. i didnt see a rdps for weeks in any 6vs6 somehow.

Most groups are melee setups yes. Well i see some 6 man rdps group, but i think they are in RvR Mostly.

Tklees wrote:solid fights, post on 3 tanks being the new meta inc... and im with bretin i muted the music but to each his own

Def kobs, Off ib , off sm , slayer. I am sure this setup can do some serious stuff in tier 4

Tiggo wrote:there are no def tanks anymore be it snb or not ^^

wondering: is it just me or are 99% of the 6man premades now full melee dps. i didnt see a rdps for weeks in any 6vs6 somehow.

RDPS only really work in 3-2-1 groups, in 2-2-2 all you have to do is bum rush the RDPS and things usually fall apart for them. The problem with 3-2-1 groups is you pretty much need to play at a higher level than the 2-2-2 group to beat them, and this usually comes down to the tanks. All it takes is one super punt and a well coordinated morale dump on a target to get a kill against a 3-2-1 since they only have 1 guard and lack tank morales/mechanics. If you watch some of bretins videos where he runs 3-2-1's watch how much better his knight plays compared to the other tanks most of the time he probably had more impact alone than the other 2 tanks had... at least in the 3 videos he posted.

Out of all the RDPS in the game I think SW has the best chance of becoming really good in 6v6, the ability to switch into assault stance to deal with pressure and having melee abilities, albeit shitty ones atm gives them potential or at least after few buffs/tweaks.

SM/BO's also been putting out decent numbers in some 2-2-2's while still being tanky enough to never become a viable target. I'd say even more so for SM since WoH counts as a tactic for stacking resist debuffs so SM is hitting targets with 0 spirit res most of the time.

OOh, you made a big boo boo at 10:50. Should have had the Chosen punt a mdps away to relieve pressure (cut their dps) and give only one person immunity for 30 seconds. WL clearly cannot be punted cuz devs got backlash from all the WL players but the SM and Slayer can be and should be given the opportunity. That immunity led to the Mara dying.

Great fight though... you guys held your own against a OP bolster. That WL seemed really bad though, dunno if he's in gankbus or just a pick-up.

Interesting video, despite the music & record quality. What's the soft you are using ? Shadowplay ? Twitch ?

WALSHE93 wrote: Also looking forward to properly fighting CCM + Deep and Dry again

Some of us will be on vacation next week, but we'll be fighting again for sure soon enough.

Tiggo wrote: wondering: is it just me or are 99% of the 6man premades now full melee dps. i didnt see a rdps for weeks in any 6vs6 somehow.

CCM core group (first designed for RvR) is using a 3-2-1 with two RDPS on order side. We're having good results with it on CW 6v6 but gankbus is the only group which totally outplayed us.
We may be changing set up soon to be more focused on 6v6 (instead of RvR), but we will still be using 1 or 2 RDPS.

yes that rdps is valid in rvr is nothing new

Tiggo wrote:yes that rdps is valid in rvr is nothing new

"We're having good results with it on CW 6v6" > Fixed !

I have lots of recorded videos, but I feel like we are showing off when posting it to public youtube channels. Maybe I'll do it soon anyway.