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TenTonHammer
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#11 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:33 am

please no; i insist, squander the potential of one of best single target mdps in the game its great when i see maras like you when i play order

its not like you need or want a 50% crit increaer on you 10s cd guaranteed crit ability or something or the highest undefendable armor debuff or the highest wounds debuff or 50% inc hd + sustain in leech heal

no lets get an AoE kd that ends up giving immunity where as you could get a better kd t focus targets with a kd from BG, BO, chosen, WE or choppa

its a garbage ability because your essentially doing what those bos and sms do when they spam out their kbs with no discretion
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#12 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:41 am

Euan wrote:They are not free immunites. That's a 3 second aoe knockdown which is pretty good. I would change a few things. Going with Subvert strenght for AP and Feeding on Fear increases your chance to crit if you crit and basically it works with Subvert Strenght for infinite spam and jagged edge. The inititative debuff further increases their chance to be crit. I would run full Devastator gear for the Armor debuff.

Crushing blows might also be something to consider.

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=mar ... :5203:5228:
Good point on Subvert Str for free AP for spamming :)

While Feeding of Fear is great for crits, I am rather hesistant as it will also debuff you with +10% chance to crit.

Pior to the patch at R32, my init was rather low and I had to be crit chance of 26% ! It hurts a lot when I am pushing on the lines and drop rather fast due to the large number of crits I receive.

I decided to go for a more hardy build to maximize uptime while pushing the ranks. Hence my tacts are as such.

When I pop Feriocious Assualt (+150 toughness, +150 str) my dps migitation is almost 100 which is rather nice when I am under fire :p

bottomline I try to survive in orvr before dealing damage. This spec is not bursty so it's not that great for 1 v 1 :)

great discussion guys, let's keep this going :)

enjoying the marauder experience :) ranged knockdown is nasty !
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#13 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:41 am

/double post

ugh.
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TenTonHammer
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#14 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:45 am

just drop like 2 pts into futile strikes or 3 to reduce yur crit chance

then the rest all could have gone int str....if you had specd cutting claw....
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#15 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:34 am

TenTonHammer wrote:please no; i insist, squander the potential of one of best single target mdps in the game its great when i see maras like you when i play order

its not like you need or want a 50% crit increaer on you 10s cd guaranteed crit ability or something or the highest undefendable armor debuff or the highest wounds debuff or 50% inc hd + sustain in leech heal

no lets get an AoE kd that ends up giving immunity where as you could get a better kd t focus targets with a kd from BG, BO, chosen, WE or choppa

its a garbage ability because your essentially doing what those bos and sms do when they spam out their kbs with no discretion

Did you even read? He plays RvR and focuses on pushing lines. AoE knockdown at 3 seconds will never be bad no matter how you put it.



@iamrompy, makes sense, if you are being focused you could try and ask someone to guard and heal you. Marauder has lowest intiative already I believe so I see your point. Feeding on Fear would increase your chance to be crit to like 36%. It just works so well with what you're going for haha. You have to be alive to deal damage. :)
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#16 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:39 am

Aoe morale does work on a big push not 100% sure on the ability to build to m4 though. Tbh as a mara in a warband if i went aoe I'd rather control my opponents morale and ap draining as much as possible.
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#17 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:21 am

Toldavf wrote:Aoe morale does work on a big push not 100% sure on the ability to build to m4 though. Tbh as a mara in a warband if i went aoe I'd rather control my opponents morale and ap draining as much as possible.
True that morale pushes make a huge difference but to be frank I hardly make it to M3 myself.

Since I am often in the front, tend to blow M2 (1200 damage to all targets 40ft in front arc) most of the time.

M3 for my playstyle don't seem attractive enough to build it up :)

I will try crushing blows and see how it works for me. Would be nice if part of the drained morale gets added to my morale pool :P
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#18 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:33 am

Euan wrote:
TenTonHammer wrote:please no; i insist, squander the potential of one of best single target mdps in the game its great when i see maras like you when i play order

its not like you need or want a 50% crit increaer on you 10s cd guaranteed crit ability or something or the highest undefendable armor debuff or the highest wounds debuff or 50% inc hd + sustain in leech heal

no lets get an AoE kd that ends up giving immunity where as you could get a better kd t focus targets with a kd from BG, BO, chosen, WE or choppa

its a garbage ability because your essentially doing what those bos and sms do when they spam out their kbs with no discretion

Did you even read? He plays RvR and focuses on pushing lines. AoE knockdown at 3 seconds will never be bad no matter how you put it.



@iamrompy, makes sense, if you are being focused you could try and ask someone to guard and heal you. Marauder has lowest intiative already I believe so I see your point. Feeding on Fear would increase your chance to be crit to like 36%. It just works so well with what you're going for haha. You have to be alive to deal damage. :)
Granted there are many ways to play a marauder and no 2 builds are equal., 10TonHammer does have a valid build albeit for a different playstyle :)

@Euan, yes I do get guards and heals in an organized grp :) But sometimes WBs just have a mind on its own and I prefer to be self sufficient, unfortunately at the expense of dps, to stay alive and push the lines :)
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#19 » Mon May 09, 2016 4:30 am

Rezzing the thread because T4 is here :P. Anyway http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=mar ... :;0:0:0:0: is my planned final build for 40/40 ive skipped the heal debuff because im generally paired with a chopper and our tanks our tanks are a BG and chosen so we dont need to worry about it being cleansed to much,

I've chosen to climb high into savagery instead of picking up mutated aggressor for several reasons.

First and most obviously the debuffs are much larger at 1500+ the hp and armour debuffs are massive with the gear the way it is atm a player in medium devastator will only have as much armour as his buffs provide, which will bring the group some fantastic dps.

Secondly the rotation is much cleaner with draining swipes added, its just another good hard hitting skill that allows you to stay in savagery longer, starve the enemy of ap, trigger procs more often and maintain a high level of dps (no flail for this mara no sir)

It remains to be seen what can be done with this spec in grp and while mutated aggressor is really nice it's only once a minute. It's true my burst potential won't be top as maras go there will be maras out there soon that can get 2k with mutated up, but my spec is going to have superior dps for the other 50 seconds of the minute and this in my book is going to provide allot more killing power.
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Re: (Mara) New build

Post#20 » Mon May 09, 2016 6:20 am

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=mar ... 7:;0:0:0:0:

This is the spec you wanna use.

I guess you are in group with a second dps, so i doubt you will be NEEDING the healing debuff.

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