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Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:25 pm
by Tesq
Gobtar wrote:
nydig wrote:Secondly ignore dmg at the end of sc screen. When you see classes with super high dmg done its normally aoe whoch ends up being fluff dmg.
I feel that the damage charts were always a poor representation of how a SC went, anyone who bases skill off of damage numbers is not a good judge of skill...that being said it is always a nice feeling to see big numbers. For tanks the scenario board is just a pop-up to close (unless you are DA AoE spamming chosen)
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Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:28 pm
by Gobtar
TenTonHammer wrote:then whats a indicator of how "good" you did? dbs?
Overall kills for your team, and wins is good start, in a group that's assisting, you can lose DBs to your team. An honest opponent will generally be the best judge of your skills. Playing against a superior opponent and learning from the experience is the best way of getting good.

"Good" players will always know whether or not they are good because of the Dunning–Kruger effect. A good player will always see ways to improve, ask questions, reflect on past experiences, try new things.

John Cleese says it better.
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Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:30 pm
by nydig
Db would be a better indication but the scoreboard in general lacks so much info and its always going to depend on the sc. If I go into a sc with no tanks and few heals then get focused by every enemy vs someone of the same class who is ignored the whole time does it mean I suck and the other guy is better? Not really.

Same can be said if I have no dmg but all the kills I just stole all the db but if I have all the dmg and no kills maybe I just aoed or beat on tanks for 15 mins.

With that being said I would love if they added a dmg taken stat to the end of sc screen. Would be nice to see just how damn much people go out of there way to attack me.

Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:24 pm
by Tklees
On the theory of what I look for from the numbers in a good sc I look for the following from a "good" sc, 3-1 kdr. 6k damage per db.

The 6k damage per deathblow is the average health of a player now. It shows how much real damage you are doing and normally accounts for steals pretty well.

Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:28 pm
by Jaycub
The problem with dbs is there are some classes that are much better at getting them because of their cull abilities like WL/SW.

Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:30 pm
by Penril
Once on live i had like 20dbs (Mara) and like 12k damage. Don't ask me how the hell i did it.

Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:16 am
by Tklees
Penril wrote:Once on live i had like 20dbs (Mara) and like 12k damage. Don't ask me how the hell i did it.
It happens. I think I still have a screenshot of a 54 db SC. Like I said it's a db to damage ratio I look for. If you are under the ratio you are hitting the wrong targets or using your burst inccorectly if you have more dbs than you're stealing them. Simple

Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:44 am
by Monkeegod
I'm +1'ing everything TKLees said. I learned a ton about being a WH from just watching and inspecting him on live. I mean, I'm nowhere near as good as him, but hey, don't let the student ruin your impression of the teacher. :)

Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:18 am
by Tklees
Monkeegod wrote:I'm +1'ing everything TKLees said. I learned a ton about being a WH from just watching and inspecting him on live. I mean, I'm nowhere near as good as him, but hey, don't let the student ruin your impression of the teacher. :)
Appreciate that. I'm not anything special when it comes to playing. Only thing I am good at is knowing the classes. Who were you on live? It's nice to see a fellow Gorfang player hopefully

Re: Witch Hunter Question

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:44 am
by TenTonHammer
since were talking about wh's

is this how you spec:

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wh; ... 364:4365:0:

im pretty jelly if i were a WE, crit, kd, and witch brew mirror all in 1 tree and aa haste at 15