Why y'all hating on healers?

[Telen]

Whats a healer?

[Urdeg]

Whats a healer?

They're those classes that look like they're casting damaging spells and then somehow they top the renown charts! That doesn't show up on my parser!

[tazdingo]

they're what we used to call those squishy guys at the back before every class got turned into psuedo dps

op might be a trailing lunatic but i can't disagree with the main point that playing your archetype in pubs is a pointless task these days

[Urdeg]

they're what we used to call those squishy guys at the back before every class got turned into psuedo dps

op might be a trailing lunatic but i can't disagree with the main point that playing your archetype in pubs is a pointless task these days

You say that as though healers aren't an essential part of a warbands victory...

[tazdingo]

they're what we used to call those squishy guys at the back before every class got turned into psuedo dps

op might be a trailing lunatic but i can't disagree with the main point that playing your archetype in pubs is a pointless task these days

You say that as though healers aren't an essential part of a warbands victory...

ye which is why i think pure archetpyes need some love to promote healthy pub play

note - i am NOT complaining about changes already made to classes. i am thrilled that sh/sw have their cool new specs, offtanks have a thousand more options, solo defensive mdps is getting more and more viable and that healers can do... well whatever it is they do when they're not healing me

i just hope that pure healers and shield tanks are next on the list for some love, cause everyone complains that there aren't enough of either but there's no real incentive for people to play them when there's no new fun stuff to try out

[peterthepan3]

they're what we used to call those squishy guys at the back before every class got turned into psuedo dps

op might be a trailing lunatic but i can't disagree with the main point that playing your archetype in pubs is a pointless task these days

You say that as though healers aren't an essential part of a warbands victory...

ye which is why i think pure archetpyes need some love to promote healthy pub play

note - i am NOT complaining about changes already made to classes. i am thrilled that sh/sw have their cool new specs, offtanks have a thousand more options, solo defensive mdps is getting more and more viable and that healers can do... well whatever it is they do when they're not healing me

i just hope that pure healers and shield tanks are next on the list for some love, cause everyone complains that they're aren't enough of either but there's no real incentive for people to play them when there's no new fun stuff to try out

Supporting your team, and being the two most important archetypes in group/warband, is more than sufficient incentive for any player who is able to see past their own preferred (*selfish) playstyles. Unfortunately, the game is populated with people who want the game to become a singleplayer experience.

[tazdingo]

Supporting your team, and being the two most important archetypes in group/warband, is more than sufficient incentive for any player who is able to see past their own preferred (*selfish) playstyles. Unfortunately, the game is populated with people who want the game to become a singleplayer experience.

people do have an incentive to do those things. pub play isn't a desire for a singleplayer experience - the experience is banding together with a bunch of randoms and seeing just how well you can work together on the fly, building a martial rapport over many months of fighting side by side even if you've never said a word to each other. it's a thing i've never experienced in any other game

some of us just don't do the whole scheduled play or comms thing for a variety of reasons but still have a desire to play a team focused class. therein lies the challenge, and i think more people would take it up if these archetypes were given some interesting new things to try out rather than relying on the same old tools. nothing should be more effective than the tools that are already in place, htl, challenge and guard must never be superceded. just something.... different

[peterthepan3]

Supporting your team, and being the two most important archetypes in group/warband, is more than sufficient incentive for any player who is able to see past their own preferred (*selfish) playstyles. Unfortunately, the game is populated with people who want the game to become a singleplayer experience.

people do have an incentive to do those things. pub play isn't a desire for a singleplayer experience - the experience is banding together with a bunch of randoms and seeing just how well you can work together on the fly, building a martial rapport over many months of fighting side by side even if you've never said a word to each other. it's a thing i've never experienced in any other game

some of us just don't do the whole scheduled play or comms thing for a variety of reasons but still have a desire to play a team focused class. therein lies the challenge, and i think more people would take it up if these archetypes were given some interesting new things to try out rather than relying on the same old tools. nothing should be more effective than the tools that are already in place, htl, challenge and guard must never be superceded. just something.... different

If being a rock upon which a group or fellowship can stand is not incentive enough, then perhaps we are doomed. Maybe our experiences differ, but being able to help a group out with guard swaps, challenge and CC is incredibly appealing to me (which is why I main tank for guild). I don't think I'm the only one with that mindset.

[tazdingo]

If being a rock upon which a group or fellowship can stand is not incentive enough, then perhaps we are doomed. Maybe our experiences differ, but being able to help a group out with guard swaps, challenge and CC is incredibly appealing to me (which is why I main tank for guild). I don't think I'm the only one with that mindset.

all i'm saying is that the changes to bo/sm; group wounds buff, group shield - and to bg/ib; more support to protectee, were very popular and definitely led to a noticable increase in the amount of pub shield tanks. hell there was a veritable bgsplosion, they were everywhere, but nobody complained cause destro melee had a ton more guards been thrown around and order ranged had a heap of hp pools on legs to blow up

- some people complained, mostly in scs. i understand the negative impact it could have on small scale, which is why i'm saying keep it off meta. the group wounds buff is definitely off meta but was a super nice addition anyway

[Penril]

1 healer
2 healer
3 healer
4 dps
5 tank
6 dps
7 tank
8 dps
9 healer
10 dps

Looks balaced to me.

Stop this, it is too much context and facts!

Eh, not really. It is just a screenshot. I remember when people used to make fun of those who used SC screenshots to "prove" something, are those days gone now?