Shaman vs Archemage

[Sulorie]

I lost my respect for open pug warbands long ago. I don't really care whether they die to such a setup, because they deserve it.

[Jaycub]

Regardless they are one of the largest driving forces in ORvR and always have been.

[Nameless]

Healing AM's can't move. Make them do it, and they can't heal themselves well let alone anyone else. The insta cast heals are not enough to over come the damage possible at the higher levels.

indeed, shamans are similar but much more forgiving at being catch or being at bad position. Once the enemy reach AM, for them is muuch harded to stay alive. And while shaman can do it without guard, AMs requare guardbot when under pressure. The other problem is that WL is not real issue for shamans, as someone said just keep moving and ap drain. 1 Hot is enough to heal up while wl barely hit you. On other hands maras pull is nightmare for AMs.

So if i rate healers will put AMs on last spot. Yea they could do good at sc's where you got save spot to kite and no obligation to stay and heal the random ppl at the groups, but when we speak about competative play they provide just too little on pretty high price

[Coryphaus]

how big of a nerf would it be to if RoF and PoS use the same x axis as the caster like other aoe abilities were changed to to stop los abuse i.e you cant stand on the third floor of a keep and bomb attackers

or stand in-front of a keep and bomb defenders

[Abolition]

how big of a nerf would it be to if RoF and PoS use the same x axis as the caster like other aoe abilities were changed to to stop los abuse i.e you cant stand on the third floor of a keep and bomb attackers

or stand in-front of a keep and bomb defenders

i believe on live they made it so that you had to have line of sight to the cast point. I would support this being a thing again.

[SilverWF]

DPS AM >>>> DPS Sham
Heal AM <<<< Heal Sham

Even do not try to argue here.