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Meliannia
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Re: Scenario balance

Post#41 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:01 am

emiliorv wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:46 pm

Premades cant queue for PUG sc => until someone CAN PROBE the contrary.

i don't wish to probe your contrary.

but if one tried to speak to a gm about this issue, and gm says he cant do anything, so one tells the gm that one recalled a post on forum a bit back from wargrimm saying anyone who tries all sorts of ways to exploit the pug scen by queueing premades will be severely punished, and one asks to escalate the issue to wargimm and ask said GM how to do that in game, and the Gm just logs off rather than answer or provide answers, then it's hard to do something about it

it's just one 6man premade of destro, the rest of destro as far as im aware dont do it, this 6man also ratified by 4 other players at different times over 2 days
so it would seem contraries could indeed be free to be probed with or without your hysterical cries of BS.


anyway this is off topic, i reiterate the scen imbalance issue for the benefit of Emilliorv is nothing to do with people not taking pops or this issue would have been with us every day for years, but for 1 year scenarios have queued fine 12 vs 12 or at worst every now again 12vs11, no big deal, workign as intended and the scen goes all way to end.
in the last 10 days its been 12v9, 9 vs 4, 6 vs 2, 12vs10, scens finishing after 30 secs coz of imblanace , no1 else joining, and there's 100s of players complaining about it, so something has been changed and it's to the detriment of the queueing system.

We just asking if gms can take a look at it, or informs us why the system got changed and does it need rethinking, mayhaps?

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emiliorv
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Re: Scenario balance

Post#42 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:01 am

Meliannia wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:01 am
emiliorv wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:46 pm

Premades cant queue for PUG sc => until someone CAN PROBE the contrary.

i don't wish to probe your contrary.

but if one tried to speak to a gm about this issue, and gm says he cant do anything, so one tells the gm that one recalled a post on forum a bit back from wargrimm saying anyone who tries all sorts of ways to exploit the pug scen by queueing premades will be severely punished, and one asks to escalate the issue to wargimm and ask said GM how to do that in game, and the Gm just logs off rather than answer or provide answers, then it's hard to do something about it
I cant blame wargrimir (or other gms) => if you talk me in-game with this pile of BS i will log off too for sure

Since you cant probe what you are saying = you are lying...so, stop spreading false information that you cant probe.

messerjockel
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Re: Scenario balance

Post#43 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:31 am

wargrimnir wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:36 pm
messerjockel wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:35 am Can any GM/ Dev let us know what will be done to solve this issue please?

Messerjockel
This would assume the team agrees with the premise doesn't it?
Thank you for answering.
I apologize for being direct but is the team in agreement or not?

Messerjockel

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Meliannia
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Re: Scenario balance

Post#44 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:01 pm

emiliorv wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:01 am

Since you cant probe what you are saying = you are lying...so, stop spreading false information that you cant probe.
made me chuckle, i hope if i ever have to hold a debate to save my life that you are NOT on my debating team.

your statement is so ludicrous and incorrect it is surreal
you are basically saying if a woman gets attacked on the way home by 5men and she crawls to the police station to report it and then police officers simply close the doors and refuse to speak to her or investigate her claims, then that means she is lying and made the whole thign up and is spreading false information!!!

When in fact it remains unproven, if the police investigate properly they may find evidence, if they listen to her and go thru CCTV along the street they may find she was in fact telling the truth.

without a valid and legitimate investigation then WE DON'T KNOW if its truth or lie, its unproven and the outcome remains in doubt.

Im still chuckling thank you, that you actually think When there is no investigation it means the accusation is immediately concluded to be a lie.

rafa nadal says men are better than women at tennis, he challenges serena williams to a match, serena refuses to play him and the media refuse to play any tennis footage showing men playing tenis and women playing tennis, thus Rafa Nadal was lying!!! Rafa stop lying, stop spreading false information that no1 can prove or probe!!!

luckily outside your delusional hysterical pram, life does not work this way, Emiliorv, my boy.

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Re: Scenario balance

Post#45 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:23 pm

cool
we're talking about quantum physics with schrodinger's cat
to prove SC unbalance.
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Strakar
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Re: Scenario balance

Post#46 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:19 pm

Overall haven't felt much of a change in group comp the last 2 weeks. I've been in a few pug scenarios with no healer, one yesterday in destro T2 with no tank. Pop times seem to be about the same, which is acceptable any time but late NA prime.

It does feel like the pug vs pre-made is better, not getting face stomped as much. Actually won a couple games in Logrins Forge with 0 and 1 kills respectively because the team played objectives and the other guys just went for kills. Had like 3 that were 500-400+, competitive.

Good weekend sc with the new mechanic. Only downside is the player kill requirement too high, under 50 on all my characters still despite playing 5+ and winning several. It's a very turtling sc especially if you play it right, so kills are at a premium.

No data, just feel. I would stick with the change.

Collision
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Re: Scenario balance

Post#47 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:51 pm

Is it to hard to understand GMs/Devs when they say "if you have a 12vX" Y players leave the queue ?

Strakar
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Re: Scenario balance

Post#48 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:14 pm

I didn't mention in my post but I have seen a few pop imbalance games, probably slightly more than before.

Why don't we just make the queue like ranked solo and the game doesn't start until both sides are full if there are declines?

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Sulorie
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Re: Scenario balance

Post#49 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:15 pm

Strakar wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:14 pm I didn't mention in my post but I have seen a few pop imbalance games, probably slightly more than before.

Why don't we just make the queue like ranked solo and the game doesn't start until both sides are full if there are declines?
You want the same sc re-pops like in ranked? Where sc sometimes restart multiple times in a row. I'd like to play sc and not sit in queue again and again because someone didn't click "join".
There is an easy solution to ensure, that at least your own sc group is complete. ;)
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Dabbart
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Re: Scenario balance

Post#50 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:37 pm

Could a message be sent in the SC everytime someone declines or times out? Not naming and shaming, just "X players have declined this SC, Y players have timed out." This might alert the masses to what the actual issue is slightly easier.

Also, does anyone who complains about group comp even play a damn tank/healer? Jeez, and I thought BDO was DPS heavy...
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