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Atropik
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#41 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:33 pm

Jesus, Bretin, leaving go. Nothing personal, but it seems like some parts of our small community are too tired of your endless rages when you suddenly get killed in rvr-lake, banned for 1 day cause of insulting others, or enything else.

guess i trolled enough, let's be more serious:
Bretin wrote: First of all Witchelf is in a horrific spot in terms of group PvP.
That means if anyone plans to participate in competitive group PvP my advice is to reroll to a choppa / marauder.
Or dps DoK, absolutely true, id say even dps BG would be better.
Bretin wrote:In proper group play on the other hand,
Oh, honey, i guess no one of those peeps who asking for an advise in WE threads would ever boost WEs WS to be competetive mdps in a competetive PvP. I know, you are focused on your 6vsX meta, and all your thoughts for a couple of years were about it, but here, in these topics, we are trying to prevent people from using Sever Limbs while fighting tanks, explaining the benefit of having RD on WE, and such a trivial things.

There is no need in WS for them, those who try boost WS, will stay alone with 4k HP after Arcing Swing with no Heaton on their back or Camorans guard ahead, and die after one Nova+Seer.
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Bretin
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#42 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:19 pm

hmm.. how do you counter wingz of heaven with no camoran inside your mastery? :/

ToXoS
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#43 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:21 pm

Hi! I'm level 26 with my WE, so I have heart seeker (finally!), and my two tactics are brute force and flanking. But apparently the increased pain tactic is a must have too. I can get it of course, but which tactic should I remplace in order to slot increased pain? brute force or flanking?

Atropik
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#44 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:35 pm

ToXoS wrote:Hi! I'm level 26 with my WE, so I have heart seeker (finally!), and my two tactics are brute force and flanking. But apparently the increased pain tactic is a must have too. I can get it of course, but which tactic should I remplace in order to slot increased pain? brute force or flanking?
Have you ever tried to test something ingame before posting?
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jorgemarco
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#45 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:41 pm

Totally agree with bretin. I left that game cause no onecares of balance. I will come back the day u choose the right way. Today 600 of 1400... i told you things are going in a very wrong way but azarael told me to use my brain or some **** like this. I told you before... but i tell you again its ur server so do what you want.

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Aurandilaz
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#46 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:50 pm

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=we; ... 9:;0:0:0:0:

I'm thinking of going for that kind of build, relatively new to WE but played WH a bit (less than 5 days but still got to +80 due to last years insane RR bonuses)
WE doesn't seem to have similar Exit Wound finisher, but AW spam with the occasional Witchbrew or healdebff, combined with KD should be good enough. Puncture maybe as finisher?
Tactics I'm not sure about, I want maximal damage, hoping to kill target as fast as possible. Flanking seems a must, along with increased crit from Increased Pain.
Strength tactic maybe? And those extra crits from mechanic points seem nice.

Penril
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#47 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:55 pm

It's not optimal to run Frenzied Mayhem in that spec since you will be using finishers a lot (Witchbrew most of the time). Better to use Taste of Blood imho.

Also, Elixir of Blades is really meh. Better to go for Elixir of the Cauldron, or even Swift Movements for more AW spam.

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Panzerkasper
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#48 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:04 pm

The WB spec doesn't need very much finishers actually. With the internal cooldown of WB it takes some time before it runs out of stacks.

If you want damage and fast killpotential WB is the wrong way to go anyways. waronlinebuilder.org - Witch Elf build This spec has a much higher initial burst then WB will ever get and with Whirling Blades the finishers become really spammable. Perfect for solo ganking and even in a grp where Healdebuff is covered by another class i would always prefer this spec since the Second tree is quite **** and is just kept alive by BLB.
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Penril
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#49 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:26 pm

Panzerkasper wrote:The WB spec doesn't need very much finishers actually. With the internal cooldown of WB it takes some time before it runs out of stacks.
Witchbrew is a finisher. If you consider anything that removes your Blood Lust as a finisher, that is. Add HRT and Puncture (your source for burst) and yeah, Witchbrew spec uses finishers quite often, therefore making the usefulness of Frenzied Mayhem questionable, at best.

The ICD for Witchbrew in RoR is 1000ms, so you will be reapplying it a lot. (source: viewtopic.php?f=73&t=11274&start=260#p171718)

Panzerkasper wrote:If you want damage and fast killpotential WB is the wrong way to go anyways. waronlinebuilder.org - Witch Elf build This spec has a much higher initial burst then WB will ever get and with Whirling Blades the finishers become really spammable. Perfect for solo ganking and even in a grp where Healdebuff is covered by another class i would always prefer this spec since the Second tree is quite **** and is just kept alive by BLB.
Actually, Frenzied Mayhem is very good for this spec (replacing Whirling Blades). So many points in Carnage means you can rely on Slice for damage (with extra 15% crit), with the occasional OYK for CC or PA / EoIP + Puncture to finish off someone. This is my favorite WE spec by far :P

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TenTonHammer
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Re: [Witch Elf] Builds thread.

Post#50 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:09 pm

Penril wrote:
This is my favorite WE spec by far :P
No 50% crit tactic?
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