Classes Balance Comparison Lets Discuss!

[Valfaros]

Can we just change those numbers into letters because I look at some posts and them I'm like: "Um is that intended or are the numbers just upside down."

B for best
M for mediocre
W for weakest

[Tesq]

Spoiler:

Noise, do you agree with Tesq about KotBS being the best DPS tank in the game?

(i am an agent of chaos)

even if disagree what's the problem? :/
i know you are bored since war is down we all are but that's a very bad attempt, im just giving my opinion.

WAR being down is no excuse to give bad opinions, like saying KotBS is the best DPS tank. Or Engi the best rDPS (just an example).

I understand people discussing about Sorc vs BW vs SW vs SH (for best rDPS). Or Mara vs Slayer (best mDPS). Or BO vs SM (best DPS tank). But KotBS as best DPS tank is kinda ridiculous when you have played all 6 tanks in this game.I know it is your opinion, but there is so much wrong in it that it makes me wonder if you truly believe that or you are just pulling our legs.

No offense intended (apologies if i did offend you). Cheers Tesq.

You tell other that they give bad opinions and then you pretend to not be offensive, just disagree is enough then.
Maybe you prefered start a pointless discussion where we throw **** each other just for why we consider each tank good or bad at dps....wouldn't be better instead just give a simple opinion on what you think out of loud with out enter too much inside of the matter? oh wait that's exatly what i've done.

....

anyway i understand you i'm bored as hell too luckyly war will be back soon.

[bloodi]

Order side

Tanks
Ability to get a driving license (54 - Brazillion )
Ironbreaker 2 Brazillions

Knightotbs of the blazing obs
None

Swordmaster
None usually, half a brazillion if the car is actually a sword

Cooking ability(1- very)

Ironbreaker
Hella good

Knightotbs of the blazing knights of the sun
Only bbq

Swordmaster
Butchery only

Melee dps Racism (None-A lot)

Slayer
Quite racist

WitchHunter
Hella racist

WhiteLion
I dont see no black or brown lions do you?


Ranged dps at Melee range(1-3)
Engineer
4

Brigthwizard
0

ShadowWarrior
They can do it but thats isnt funny at all, so -1

AoE tankyness
Engineer
Nah

BrightWizard
Not really.

ShadowWarrior
Nope

Warrior priests
Single target healing (1-3)

MeleeWarriorpriest
Only if you find an idiot to hit

WarriorPriest
3 million

ArmlessWarriorPriest
3 and a half

AoE healing (1-3)

MeleeWarriorPriest
Bring back divine strike

WarriorPriest
1418w5137173 million light year units.

Armlesswarriorpriest
Face still enough so 3 and a half.

[Dabbart]

Spoiler:

Order side

Tanks
Ability to get a driving license (54 - Brazillion )
Ironbreaker 2 Brazillions

Knightotbs of the blazing obs
None

Swordmaster
None usually, half a brazillion if the car is actually a sword

Cooking ability(1- very)

Ironbreaker
Hella good

Knightotbs of the blazing knights of the sun
Only bbq

Swordmaster
Butchery only

Melee dps Racism (None-A lot)

Slayer
Quite racist

WitchHunter
Hella racist

WhiteLion
I dont see no black or brown lions do you?


Ranged dps at Melee range(1-3)
Engineer
4

Brigthwizard
0

ShadowWarrior
They can do it but thats isnt funny at all, so -1

AoE tankyness
Engineer
Nah

BrightWizard
Not really.

ShadowWarrior
Nope

Warrior priests
Single target healing (1-3)

MeleeWarriorpriest
Only if you find an idiot to hit

WarriorPriest
3 million

ArmlessWarriorPriest
3 and a half

AoE healing (1-3)

MeleeWarriorPriest
Bring back divine strike

WarriorPriest
1418w5137173 million light year units.

Armlesswarriorpriest
Face still enough so 3 and a half.

Go home, you're drunk.

Spoiler:

WAR being down is no excuse to give bad opinions, like saying KotBS is the best DPS tank. Or Engi the best rDPS (just an example).

I understand people discussing about Sorc vs BW vs SW vs SH (for best rDPS). Or Mara vs Slayer (best mDPS). Or BO vs SM (best DPS tank). But KotBS as best DPS tank is kinda ridiculous when you have played all 6 tanks in this game.I know it is your opinion, but there is so much wrong in it that it makes me wonder if you truly believe that or you are just pulling our legs.

No offense intended (apologies if i did offend you). Cheers Tesq.

You tell other that they give bad opinions and then you pretend to not be offensive, just disagree is enough then.
Maybe you prefered start a pointless discussion where we throw **** each other just for why we consider each tank good or bad at dps....wouldn't be better instead just give a simple opinion on what you think out of loud with out enter too much inside of the matter? oh wait that's exatly what i've done.

....

anyway i understand you i'm bored as hell too luckyly war will be back soon.

"no offense intended" doesn't really mean what(it appears) you think it does. He's not pretending to be unoffensive. Just saying it's not actually intended. I know people that can sound aggressive ordering a cup of coffee, doesn't mean they want to punch the Barrista...

And... We are discussing the comparisons. If you want to just post your opinion and have no discussion about it, that might lead to disagreements or having your idea's shat upon... then just post and ignore replies. Otherwise back your thoughts and opinions up with something. Or run the risk of being called a Troll.

[cemen]

Noise, do you agree with Tesq about KotBS being the best DPS tank in the game?

(i am an agent of chaos)

even if disagree what's the problem? :/
i know you are bored since war is down we all are but that's a very bad attempt, im just giving my opinion.

WAR being down is no excuse to give bad opinions, like saying KotBS is the best DPS tank. Or Engi the best rDPS (just an example).

I understand people discussing about Sorc vs BW vs SW vs SH (for best rDPS). Or Mara vs Slayer (best mDPS). Or BO vs SM (best DPS tank). But KotBS as best DPS tank is kinda ridiculous when you have played all 6 tanks in this game.I know it is your opinion, but there is so much wrong in it that it makes me wonder if you truly believe that or you are just pulling our legs.

No offense intended (apologies if i did offend you). Cheers Tesq.

You should be able to hit super hard as a kobs with the right setup; str specced and have emperor's champ and runefang up giving you 1300 str and 600 ws

try it out sometime rr40+, mine is rr37 so the damage isnt quite there but when emperor's champ is up (30s duration) i hit like a **** truck. no dmg auras and ill get 200k+ dmg and a good amt of dbs (8+).

heres my char's gear:
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/armor ... ame=Hemodr

Try a naked level 40 SM with 500 strength, 20% crit tactic and 10% damage increase... Double spirit debuff any dude and watch them 700-800 Ether-Dance crit totalling 3k damage in 3 seconds. Then had the 2 dots, the AA and Blurring shock procs for every crit... 4k+. 3 seconds. Naked.

I mean, all tanks can do great damage versus clueless, potless, cloth armored targets. IB can manage decent enough even versus medium armor thanks to armor debuff. But SM are good against all thanks to ignoring armor and resist altogether. Heck, Blurring Shock procs even ignore toughness.

There is no way a knight can compare to a SM. Not even remotely close versus medium and heavy armored classes.

I'd wager kobs to be one of the best (if not the best, top 3 for sure) tanks in game for dishing out damage(raw dps). SM is probably number one due to the fact most people don't have resists capped, and you can only cap resists at 40% after debuffs, whereas armor can reduce up to 75% of physical damage after debuffs.. I know we all know this..

That being said, most classes can only get up to ~40-50% phsyical resists if they stack armor talis with the current gear, and when my procs are up (literally 80% of the time) the kobs can ignore most of that armor, and is able to utilize the extra 400 or so strength that they have as compared to an SM.

On paper, SM would probably come out on top in terms of being able to take down a target on it's own as you are able to do some actual burst damage as compared to the other classes (load dots, ether dance), and most healers are stacking as much armor as possible so you'd have an easy time doing some good damage with less than optimal gear, optimal being mercenary and an inf weapon.

[cemen]

Order side

Tanks
Ability to get a driving license (54 - Brazillion )
Ironbreaker 2 Brazillions

Knightotbs of the blazing obs
None

Swordmaster
None usually, half a brazillion if the car is actually a sword

Cooking ability(1- very)

Ironbreaker
Hella good

Knightotbs of the blazing knights of the sun
Only bbq

Swordmaster
Butchery only

Melee dps Racism (None-A lot)

Slayer
Quite racist

WitchHunter
Hella racist

WhiteLion
I dont see no black or brown lions do you?


Ranged dps at Melee range(1-3)
Engineer
4

Brigthwizard
0

ShadowWarrior
They can do it but thats isnt funny at all, so -1

AoE tankyness
Engineer
Nah

BrightWizard
Not really.

ShadowWarrior
Nope

Warrior priests
Single target healing (1-3)

MeleeWarriorpriest
Only if you find an idiot to hit

WarriorPriest
3 million

ArmlessWarriorPriest
3 and a half

AoE healing (1-3)

MeleeWarriorPriest
Bring back divine strike

WarriorPriest
1418w5137173 million light year units.

Armlesswarriorpriest
Face still enough so 3 and a half.

I agree but i thnk armless wp is still 1418w5137173 million light year units cuz introduction of divine mend (seriously why is this in game it's game breaking for a wp to have that crazy single target free-morale1 spammable heal IMO... and i have a 40+ WP!!)