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Tesq
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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#21 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:30 pm

luucaa can you please re read what you comment :/


"You're still better off maxing out Block than adding Parry IMO. With Mixed Def build and Downfall, I can max out my Block rating, and have a minimum of 50% Parry up nearly all the time. This leaves me points to spend in Disrupt. "

ah no cos block increase % is a lot less than parry, and since you have 60% on dodge disrupt no sense specc full block.
(not melee damage are irrelevant if you just interruopt bomb or they are not from st on your guard)

"-I guess Downfall, Dizzying Blow, and Repel are not support tools? "

since when spent point in the corrupt tree make these skills better .......... spent points increase damage or unclock skills those skill are cc so spent point there do not make them better or doing more damage or do better cc ( snare always snare.... it not snare better.)
KD or stag are both 1 cc is this is totally irrelevant you can choose 1 and i would choose 1 aoe interrupt rather than 1 st interrupt. You may want BG for KD and chosne for stag.


"15 second cool-down is not spammable IMO. It should be used on every cooldown when you are fighting in Melee range. "

definbition of spamable: something with no coldown or when it's coldown is equal or less its duration :/

wounds debuff cd is 15 sec and last 20 sec----> it's spam able.


"If you are spending all your points in Discord, Why would you NOT get the Heal Debuff aura?"

there are 2 points left for either boost a little other auras and only if you go bomb take the 25% heal
debuff.


about toughnes you really think it can help vs 700 point damage from a boiling blood or a fest arrow?
better protect vs what you can protect. Armor and resistence reduced damage in % exept vs fest arrow and torment something that you should not care cos it's not aoe damage and if they are attcking you they are doing somethign wrong or your party is dead and maybe those resistence more high could had help them....

Your tank not gonna go down in hold the line if in group even focus st, it may go down by guards damage on aoe so that's why dodge /disrupt / parry and also resistence.

Also
discord path increase the wounds debuff value the damage of all your spiritual attacks, it also make sorc damage better camon ...

armor/resistence > toughnes
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Abolition
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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#22 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:50 pm

Kacia wrote:Just wondering if there are any good chosen guides out there. Just started playing one and I know the basics but wanted to learn more. Thanks
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Razid1987
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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#23 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:53 pm

Just did some comparising for level 20 (250 Toughness atm):

Warped Flesh: Absorbs 208 damage / 3 secs = 69,333 DPS mitigated.

Rugged: +80 Toughness

250 Toughness = 50 DPS mitigated
330 (250+80) Toughness = 66 DPS mitigated
80 Toughness = 16 DPS Mitigated

~70 DPS vs 16 DPS.

Or am I looking at this wrong?

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Razid1987
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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#24 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:20 pm

Tesq wrote:luucaa can you please re read what you comment :/
You'd do all of us a favor by doing that yourself, thank you very much.
Tesq wrote:ah no cos block increase % is a lot less than parry, and since you have 60% on dodge disrupt no sense specc full block.
Block > Parry

Block: Melee, ranged, AND spells.
Parry: Melee *crickes*

Also, what part of blocking giving you 25% parry don't you get? Don't you understand that block is far more valuable because of Mixed Defenses? You don't need to stack parry because you get 25% for free.
Tesq wrote:(not melee damage are irrelevant if you just interruopt bomb or they are not from st on your guard)
Wat
Tesq wrote:since when spent point in the corrupt tree make these skills better .......... spent points increase damage or unclock skills those skill are cc so spent point there do not make them better or doing more damage or do better cc ( snare always snare.... it not snare better.)
You said, and I quote: "ALL chosen support tools exept "tooth of .." are on discord path"

This is clearly not true. Stop trying to defend bs.
Tesq wrote:KD or stag are both 1 cc is this is totally irrelevant you can choose 1 and i would choose 1 aoe interrupt rather than 1 st interrupt. You may want BG for KD and chosne for stag.
Wrong. KD is good in all situations. Stagger is only good in large scale organized RvR. And you might see stagger just as an interrupt, but that just shows how much you misuse it, tbh. A KD is so much more than a interrupt. Getting stunned for 3 seconds in DEADLY. And sure, you may... IN TIER 4!
Tesq wrote:definbition of spamable: something with no coldown or when it's coldown is equal or less its duration :/
Wrong. Pressing a button once, and then again 15 seconds later =/= spamming. You're saying you don't do anything inbetween those 15 secs? Your definition is wrong:
"In role-playing video games spam usually takes the form of repeated use of one powerful or low-cost skill or spell." - Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(gaming)
Tesq wrote:wounds debuff cd is 15 sec and last 20 sec----> it's spam able.
Omfg Tes.... No. Learn the definition before you stubbornly try to correct someone else.
Tesq wrote:there are 2 points left for either boost a little other auras and only if you go bomb take the 25% heal debuff.
No, there's only 1 point left: http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... 4:;0:0:0:0:

26 - 25 = 1.
Tesq wrote:about toughnes you really think it can help vs 700 point damage from a boiling blood or a fest arrow?
better protect vs what you can protect. Armor and resistence reduced damage in % exept vs fest arrow and torment something that you should not care cos it's not aoe damage and if they are attcking you they are doing somethign wrong or your party is dead and maybe those resistence more high could had help them....
Your tank not gonna go down in hold the line if in group even focus st, it may go down by guards damage on aoe so that's why dodge /disrupt / parry and also resistence.
wat?
Tesq wrote:Also discord path increase the wounds debuff value the damage of all your spiritual attacks, it also make sorc damage better camon ...
Gamon..???
Tesq wrote:armor/resistence > toughnes
resistance* toughness*

Block > Toughness / Wounds > Resist > Armor > Parry

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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#25 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:27 pm

Abolition wrote:
Kacia wrote:Just wondering if there are any good chosen guides out there. Just started playing one and I know the basics but wanted to learn more. Thanks
Ravage.
All the pros use a script that uses ravage whenever WASD is pressed down as well, it really takes ravage spamming to a new level of efficiency.
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Razid1987
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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#26 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:32 pm

Jaycub wrote:
Abolition wrote:
Kacia wrote:Just wondering if there are any good chosen guides out there. Just started playing one and I know the basics but wanted to learn more. Thanks
Ravage.
All the pros use a script that uses ravage whenever WASD is pressed down as well, it really takes ravage spamming to a new level of efficiency.
Yeah, all the famous WAR pros that have made a career out of... oh wait.

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verg87
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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#27 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:28 pm

How can you not use Flawless armor tactic for tanky chosens? it was necessary

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Luuca
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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#28 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:43 pm

verg87 wrote:How can you not use Flawless armor tactic for tanky chosens? it was necessary
At 26, I run Toughness and Mixed Defenses. Or Toughness and Warped Flesh.

If - IF - I had a third slot right now, Flawles Armor would be slotted. That said, right now, running a Toughness tactic allows me to Talisman for STR. With End-game gear and end-game Crit items, Flawless armor was mandatory, I agree. The state of the game as it is, it's better to have toughness and Parry or a semi weak shield.

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Luuca
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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#29 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:45 pm

I am toying with the idea of a Chosen Guide at the moment, but with cap at 26, it would have to be segmented by Tiers to be of any use. That's a lot of work.

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verg87
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Re: Chosen guides?

Post#30 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:54 pm

and last tactic on shield and sword like power of the gods, i would experiment with warped flesh and 4-th grade block shield/3 grade disrupt reknown builds, thanks!

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