This proc doesn't cover the nerf to the bw/sorc mechanics. Not at all. As is the set itself. It's great for twinks, but not for the overall state of the archetype in the endgame. But it was the "new set in which bw/sorс will shine" rumors* that served as the reason for this nerf.Zumos wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 1:31 pmCurrently it will "stack" with Guard, not stack with Detaunt, not stack with Challenge and will stack with Distracting Bellow. All damage reductions should be stacking multiplicatively.leftayparxoun wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:03 am
- In the melee dps Twisted Darkpromise set the 4pc bonus is:
Could you elaborate on if it stacks with Damage decreasers such as Guard, Detaunt, Challenge, Tank M3? If it stacks, is it additive or multiplicative damage decrease?
Clairvoyance was designed with the 10s internal cooldown. It is missing from the tooltip, will be fixed in next patch.leftayparxoun wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:03 am
- Then, in the ranged dps Darkpromise set the 4pc bonus is:
Could you elaborate on if the Clairvoyance proc has an Internal Cool-down different than the standard 0.25 s ICD? In the database page for it (https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/35688) there is a sneaky entry statingEventTargetCooldown: 10000
Does that imply an ICD of 10 seconds that is not indicated at the tooltip of the proc or is it just the duration of the buff after it procs?
And I saw a question whether it would be consumed by auto attacks. It should not be consumed by auto attacks.
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Re: Patch Notes 07/08/25
So it's probably better suited to the ST big nuke ability builds. Makes sense!Avernus wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:56 pmYep, it's supposed to proc once every 10s (at best). Bonus points if this this is STILL consumed by your AA.3Form wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:35 pm Nice catch. This proc seems amazing (effectively up to a 10% extra crit chance depending on what your current crit chance is) but might be 1000x less amazing if it can only proc once every 10s.
Re: Patch Notes 07/08/25
The nerf to the critical damage of the BW and Sorc mechanic has no relation at all to the Darkpromise set.Magusar wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:06 pm This proc doesn't cover the nerf to the bw/sorc mechanics. Not at all. As is the set itself. It's great for twinks, but not for the overall state of the archetype in the endgame. But it was the "new set in which bw/sork will shine" that officially served as the reason for this nerf.
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Hii thanks for the dungeon !! Awesome of u guys.
Question on 3 fronts
1 are the different sets cosmetically different? Aka does blissful feature different looking items than main spec/offspec etc??
2 would u consider including rewards for playthroughs after getting the sets to pre existing dungeons? I.e. gunbad gives you weapons that you can sell and liniments and I understand this dungeon too, encouraging playing through it after beating it, but crypts gives only a stalwart and bastion stairs gives nothing
3 when can we have a sister of Avelorn or handmaiden of the Everqueen cosmetic set for the shadow warrior? Ty!
Question on 3 fronts
1 are the different sets cosmetically different? Aka does blissful feature different looking items than main spec/offspec etc??
2 would u consider including rewards for playthroughs after getting the sets to pre existing dungeons? I.e. gunbad gives you weapons that you can sell and liniments and I understand this dungeon too, encouraging playing through it after beating it, but crypts gives only a stalwart and bastion stairs gives nothing
3 when can we have a sister of Avelorn or handmaiden of the Everqueen cosmetic set for the shadow warrior? Ty!
Re: Patch Notes 07/08/25
No, not really. Because rdps (well, not only them but...) usually have "use your dots/debuffs then use your damage abilities" gameplay. And you are,obviously,unlikely to proc this thin instead of, for example, wasting it on DoT.3Form wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:09 pmSo it's probably better suited to the ST big nuke ability builds. Makes sense!Avernus wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:56 pmYep, it's supposed to proc once every 10s (at best). Bonus points if this this is STILL consumed by your AA.3Form wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:35 pm Nice catch. This proc seems amazing (effectively up to a 10% extra crit chance depending on what your current crit chance is) but might be 1000x less amazing if it can only proc once every 10s.
To speak frankly, this proc is "garbage bonus" and serves to tone town a set which would otherwise made almost all other PvE and PvP sets redundant.
P.S. And even with this weak bonus it DOES make most other sets redundant (for SW/SH anyways). You'll need to mix this with sentinel (for a ring+tali combo) and then straight to the BiS sov+tri mix (or tri+sov if you prefer). All other sets are either situational (Blissful DP is good for AoE, no reason to buy invader; def sov and victorious for def, obviously). The rest are just junk/appearence items.
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Re: Patch Notes 07/08/25
Applying DoTs can proc Clairvoyance, but DoT abilities will not consume the proc.Avernus wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:22 pmNo, not really. Because rdps (well, not only them but...) usually have "use your dots/debuffs then use your damage abilities" gameplay. And you are,obviously,unlikely to proc this thin instead of, for example, wasting it on DoT.
To speak frankly, this proc is "garbage bonus" and serves to tone town a set which would otherwise made almost all other PvE and PvP sets redundant.
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Correct. But, since you are unlikely to drop your rotation because this thing is procced, it's usefullness is...limited.Zumos wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:36 pm Applying DoTs can proc Clairvoyance, but DoT abilities will not consume the proc.
Re: Patch Notes 07/08/25
Got it. Found that message - lost context.Thanks for the answer.Zumos wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:11 pmThe nerf to the critical damage of the BW and Sorc mechanic has no relation at all to the Darkpromise set.Magusar wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:06 pm This proc doesn't cover the nerf to the bw/sorc mechanics. Not at all. As is the set itself. It's great for twinks, but not for the overall state of the archetype in the endgame. But it was the "new set in which bw/sork will shine" that officially served as the reason for this nerf.
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WH 88
Marauder 85
Sorc 85
Eng 82
WL 83
Chop 86
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WH 88
Marauder 85
Sorc 85
Eng 82
WL 83
Chop 86
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Malessar wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:14 pm 1 are the different sets cosmetically different? Aka does blissful feature different looking items than main spec/offspec etc??
Would be great, some of the new looks are epic but I also liked the chosen OG (the IC guards armor)
Anyway this is amazing, thanks a lot !!!

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Kind of my feeling too to be honest. I saw that this set has 5% crit across three pieces (shoulders, gloves and boots) which maybe makes a 5pc setup attractive despite the 4pc proc not being as crazy as I hoped. Need to get the pieces into the min-max spreadsheet to test.Avernus wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:22 pmNo, not really. Because rdps (well, not only them but...) usually have "use your dots/debuffs then use your damage abilities" gameplay. And you are,obviously,unlikely to proc this thin instead of, for example, wasting it on DoT.
To speak frankly, this proc is "garbage bonus" and serves to tone town a set which would otherwise made almost all other PvE and PvP sets redundant.
P.S. And even with this weak bonus it DOES make most other sets redundant (for SW/SH anyways). You'll need to mix this with sentinel (for a ring+tali combo) and then straight to the BiS sov+tri mix (or tri+sov if you prefer). All other sets are either situational (Blissful DP is good for AoE, no reason to buy invader; def sov and victorious for def, obviously). The rest are just junk/appearence items.
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