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Sepplainer
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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#11 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 1:16 pm

BluIzLucky wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:35 pm
Nameless wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:01 am I got 6 rr80+ healers got 3-4 of these rings and frankly they stay at bank. After the tali slot is gone they are not so much better (if any) than 2 piece genesis that you got at lvl 36. So this panic about hidden time limited bis gear is abit over rated imo
Yep, people are losing their mind over what is (outside the 30 days with talis slot) in most cases a downgrade or at best like a 0.1% boost over alternatives.

And since they can be sold anytime on AH it's not even time gated lol...

If anything, it's a good thing, since it means new players gets a massive gold boost from established players.
When on a WH or WL, 2% crit from the double Ruby Annulus can make a fight since it's not a 2% damage increase but higher since crit damage. That's not even talking for the BW. The rings are meant for Glass Cannon spec, which means running them on a healer isn't going to change too much, and running them on a tank won't really mean much at all. They are also the only way to get a good armor end game accessory.

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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#12 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 1:23 pm

Part of the problem is that There used to exist, for example Warden/Watcher jewelry that dropped in City Instances that had 3% Crit reduction on them, bind on equip as well. Also Rings with Crit existed as well that didnt require you to go thru 3-4 pve instances to even have a shot at them. GoldBags in Pvp/Pve should have set items. Purple bags in RvR/Pve should have Proc Wpns. Blue Bags should contain Boe things like Great jewelries with 3% Crit reduction or even 3% Crit.

Crit is universal and works for everyone. There should be Crit meta because its actually fair instead of this armour penetration meta.
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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#13 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:16 pm

I agree about Annulus. I finally got mine only with this event and I've been playing since January 2024. BiS items should not only be available once per year even if they are only slightly better than the alternatives.

However I think dungeons are not so bad. It's nice to have alternative content aside from just RvR, and it makes sense that the gear they give is good or even in some cases BiS for RvR, because this is fundamentally an RvR game. If they only gave PvE gear no one would do them.

The only change I would make is to give players who already have their gear from these dungeons more incentive to run them to help others who do need the gear. Like by buffing the speedrun quest rewards, or by adding repeatables that give 50-100g per run or something like that.

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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#14 » Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:24 am

Nameless wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:01 am After the tali slot is gone they are not so much better (if any) than 2 piece genesis that you got at lvl 36. So this panic about hidden time limited bis gear is abit over rated imo
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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#15 » Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:29 am

Sepplainer wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 1:16 pm When on a WH or WL, 2% crit from the double Ruby Annulus can make a fight since it's not a 2% damage increase but higher since crit damage. That's not even talking for the BW. The rings are meant for Glass Cannon spec, which means running them on a healer isn't going to change too much, and running them on a tank won't really mean much at all. They are also the only way to get a good armor end game accessory.
2% crit will not make you a fight. Thats plain impossible due to current game mechanics. Nor anyhow "good armor" (if only you would have a clue what you talk about) would decide you a fight.

whole this circus that is going on around this event is so absurd i have no words.

After tali slot is gone, those rings are close to irrelevent choice for any spec/char. Prove me wrong

Endari
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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#16 » Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:53 pm

nocturnalguest wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:29 am After tali slot is gone, those rings are close to irrelevent choice for any spec/char. Prove me wrong
Better raw stats than 2piece genesis plus what ever extra stat you chose +crit, +armor pen, ect... So an upgrade in every way over genesis.

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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#17 » Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:53 pm

Endari wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:53 pm
nocturnalguest wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:29 am After tali slot is gone, those rings are close to irrelevent choice for any spec/char. Prove me wrong
Better raw stats than 2piece genesis plus what ever extra stat you chose +crit, +armor pen, ect... So an upgrade in every way over genesis.
Genesis give more raw stats, annu ring advantage is that it give crit for a bit lesser main stats and could give armor instead resist which is unique for a ring slot
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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#18 » Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:29 pm

nocturnalguest wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:29 am
Sepplainer wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 1:16 pm When on a WH or WL, 2% crit from the double Ruby Annulus can make a fight since it's not a 2% damage increase but higher since crit damage. That's not even talking for the BW. The rings are meant for Glass Cannon spec, which means running them on a healer isn't going to change too much, and running them on a tank won't really mean much at all. They are also the only way to get a good armor end game accessory.
2% crit will not make you a fight. Thats plain impossible due to current game mechanics. Nor anyhow "good armor" (if only you would have a clue what you talk about) would decide you a fight.

whole this circus that is going on around this event is so absurd i have no words.

After tali slot is gone, those rings are close to irrelevent choice for any spec/char. Prove me wrong
They are best in slot as they give more crit chance, armor pen, or armor than any other options while having very good base stats on top of it. Might not be a massive advantage but they're still best in slot and gating such items behind a once a year event is dumb. People pay thousands of gold for no talisman annulus when the event isn't going for a reason.

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Sepplainer
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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#19 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 5:45 am

nocturnalguest wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:29 am After tali slot is gone, those rings are close to irrelevent choice for any spec/char. Prove me wrong
To prove you wrong, what were the prices of the annulus rings before this event. What are they on board now. What do you think they will be after the event is over. I know what I'm talking about when I say they are THE ONLY END GAME ACCESSORY IN THE GAME to give armor. An armor tali worth of armor is still good armor. The main topic wasn't if the items are bis. In this thread, assume they are bis and every DPS needs 2, and every healer needs 1. Now make a new response to this thread ONLY WITH THAT NEW HYPOTHETICAL. Is it healthy for the game to give event only BIS DPS accessories. Is it healthy for the game to give slightly worse BIS DPS accessories from PvE ONLY.

Sepplainer
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Re: Discuss around The Lost Vale and worse Annulus Rings

Post#20 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 5:52 am

Actually, every person who enters this thread and reads this will now be hypnotized into believing, WHILE RESPONDING TO THIS THREAD, that Annulus are the BIS end game accessory for DPS. It doesn't matter by how much. They will then respond accordingly to my game idea of combining PvE with actual PvP quests to make the new BiS or even side grade of BiS accessory. Do you like the idea or dislike the idea. Why or why not. What about it is undesirable. What would you do instead?

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