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Bozzax
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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#11 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:55 am

Healers aren't strong only if you are bad or solo. This is mostly complaints from sub geared and/or skilled players
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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#12 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:18 pm

Dps players need to assist to get kills in scenarios, however...

Solo dps don't assist in scenarios, therefore...

Solo dps players don't get kills in scenarios.

Pretty simple really. Tanks guard, healers heal, and dps assist. The problem is that most solo dps players don't assist and are instead playing their own solo game.

I strongly suspect that most of the "hardcore-elite-BiS-discord-premades" are just /5 groups and casuals that know how to assist, which may as well be magic to those that don't know how to do it.
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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#13 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:22 pm

yoluigi wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:25 pm
lemao wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:14 pm Not sure if trolling or not.
TTK is exremely fast.
It's freaking slow compare to before. Dont take a genius to know that with the Global cooldown change plus all the nerf to dmg to all classes. If your in pug vs pug in sc it's pretty comes down who got the most heals because you dont need to stack willpower just stack defence. It's nothing new it plagues the game for any king of 12 man and bellow for WB dont change that much.
You are a solo player and your thinking is therefore flawed because of it.

Game is balanced around atleast 2 players assisting each other and if they do so with debuffs like heal debuffs and armor debuffs TTK is exremely fast since months.

Unfortunately a lot of players are living in their solo bubble.

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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#14 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:34 pm

Bozzax wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:55 am Healers aren't strong only if you are bad or solo. This is mostly complaints from sub geared and/or skilled players
It seems we play in diffrent games with you :lol: with detaunts and guards mechanic healers are very powerful in this game, and can significantly influence the outcome of battles.

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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#15 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:04 pm

Damn.. another glass cannon soloer got rolled by a premade and made balance suggestions.
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Bozzax
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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#16 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:52 pm

Battlefield wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:34 pm
Bozzax wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:55 am Healers aren't strong only if you are bad or solo. This is mostly complaints from sub geared and/or skilled players
It seems we play in diffrent games with you :lol: with detaunts and guards mechanic healers are very powerful in this game, and can significantly influence the outcome of battles.
Ok
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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#17 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:55 pm

You are very wrong, my friend.
TTK is currently very fast.
Your observations must be due to your style of play.
You probably go into sc solo ( nothing wrong with that) but use useless aoe spec in sc and/or don't assist other dps. Hence your frustration. I've seen many times how pure pug destroys disc prem when pug players assist well and are backed up with smart tanks and healers.
I will also remind you that tanks and healers when it comes to defensive are a shadow of themselves from live server. If you think tanks and healers are tough now then you didn't play on original servers 😊
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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#18 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:37 am

mind boggling what i am reading.

TTK has always been atrocious to me in this game. not now, not since the GCD, for years.

it is the main reason organised warbands started dodging each other (the ones i was playing in at the time at least) in cities, after the morale bomb nerf.

you would have 10-15 minute long fights, ESPECIALLY ON THE 3RD STAGE, with everyone pressing every button under the sun and following their perfect WB rotation to a T... and see like 3 people die at best.

this was back when slayer still had 100% strikethrough on rampage btw.

so i would love to hear what playstyle and gear people who say TTK is fast mow run/have.

because god damn retail wow has faster TTK than RoR.
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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#19 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:00 am

It is difficult to compare this iteration of the server to the live game. Everything on RoR has been nerfed into the ground compared with the live game. It's been a long time, but I can't imagine that RoR ttk is lower than live. From my perspective things seems pretty balanced. I'd like to see the morale damage nerf reverted, but we can't always get what we want.
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Re: Bring back damage to this game

Post#20 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:36 am

salazarn wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:09 pm Bring back greater crit on items and rr ranks.
Remove the nerfs to damage specs like sorc and slayer and welf and wh
Lower the healing to AoR levels
Remove the morale cap
Change back the way toughness worked to before when it wasnt so strong

Scenarios in current RoR are painful. Premades just roll over people with healer stacking. Getting a kill is too hard vs guarded teams spamming party heal.

Slapping a 24person cap on aoes might work for rvr but smallscale and scenarios just arent working right now for many I believe.
We can't have any of that. If such changes are re-implemented, the elderly who play this game will lose all continence and be reduced to a screaming balled up infant on the floor, rocking back and forth in a puddle of their own tears.

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