Renown Rank Unbalance in SC

[peterthepan3]

Why not just make scs 16-39 whats 7 lvls gonna change bolster adjustment to balance with anni that way the maxed out rr80 something can farm each other on the daily and lowbies can pug it in peace without waiting for a t2-t3 forever pop ik ik "But the population" way more people would que if the threat of premades disappeared increasing pop times and server happiness

Oh wait but a fair game? Elitests would have a heart attack if there was actually a chance to lose.. Cant have that now tsk tsk just look at forums and all the elite solo-6man wls crying theyd quit for sure

End your bullshit mate

#triggered but isnt even bs, taking away the lowbies from the premade feed would make everyone but the .5% happy

Yes let's further reduce that 5% of the population into a nice, well-rounded 0%!

Your definition of an 'elitist' is wrong, btw. There is nothing 'elitist' about wanting to farm pugs/lowbies, and any premades who enjoy doing so are simply referred to as 'pug farmers'.

[drmordread]

Take your beatings with good grace. LEARN from them. How did they beat you? What beat you? LEARN!

and remember ...

Somewhere out here in RoR World, there are a number of players with lower RR than you, mad at being in the same sc with you!

[CountTalabecland]

Order's lack of class balance seems to be the number one problem.
After that its the fact Order cant compete against SH/Choppa builds when it comes to crowd control.

[Onemantankwall]

Order's lack of class balance seems to be the number one problem.
After that its the fact Order cant compete against SH/Choppa builds when it comes to crowd control.

While solo roaming i watched one organized cntk order wb annihlate 3 destro puggers today in Reikland "but orders broke" can't balance players skill /shrug best grp wins, period no matter what side youre on

[adamthelc]

The nature of this game is always going to pit people further progressed against people who are not as progressed.

The difference between a 16 and a 39 is arguably greater than a 31 and a 40, even a high renown ranked one.

The big difference is that while leveling the difference in level is more random. While when you get to the end of the road the majority of players are top level, which makes it worse for the low level.

Its exacerbated by people running in groups, putting more effort into being competitive and things like that.

If you are looking for reasons to complain about something being unfair, there will never be an end to things that bother you. Accept that if you are going to have to take your lumps as you progress. It's not like you are the only one, everyone has to do it.

[Zaxxond]

RR Rank matters. Grouping up matters more and will out do high RR solo all stars all the time. There is one guild though that keeps getting stomped when they group up and can't beat pugs. They know who they are.

[Arteker616]

what will be next i wonder, ban xx class from scs , filter players due to skill celing , specs, people with xxx gear .....

This post is sos tupid than i dont know where to start.

RR means jackshit if there isnt a good player to back it up, there is plenty of rr 80s weich are more useles than fresh lvl 30s with greens , and plenty of pug stompers wich when they outta their premade die like fleas because they rely on his premade to do half work and dont pay attention on scs and then ,,, bitching crying insulting blabla (could write a damm long list but there is the name and shame politic etc), and in the end a rr 80 will fall like any other toon without proper support to a cordinated well done job .

p.s to quote good ole heymate , learn to **** play . people is lately turning so bitchy , crying and on general toxic i dont know anymore where this will lead . and what is worse , when u know the name of the toons of most posters and do you realize they barely can handle their own toons but they display such amazing skills at forumshitposting one wonder if they applied such intensity to playing better , half the **** of the forums would never arrive because people would laugh his ass off at the idea of people realy crying so much.

[witchdoctor]

Just a trick for not getting farmed all the time in Sc's. dont list for pug when you play solo...
I win much moore Sc's when not listing pug sc as a solo player. You have so many times 6 players of the same guild or same alliance with perfect setup against you, more than in all other SC's

[Berzar]

This is tricky. I agree with what Peter said earlier in the thread. If this game had a larger population, then we could have a fairer system.

For example, keeping sub 40's together, gating by renown rank, better class distribution, even by gear strength.

The reality is we don't, not at the moment. I would rather have an unbalanced and unfair scenario over none at all. Even in those ones you can get a decent fight and have some fun.

I definitely feel the frustration when you join a scenario and can immediately tell it's going to be a rough ride. We need take the good with the bad!

[Mystry]

Order's lack of class balance seems to be the number one problem.
After that its the fact Order cant compete against SH/Choppa builds when it comes to crowd control.

Mostly this. It doesn't help that some of orders strongest classes are also the least played. Example, BW is the strongest ranged DPS class Order has, yet it's the least played by miles. There are a TON more SW's and DPS AMs. RP is, in my mind, the strongest healer that Order has, and again is the least played. KoTBS is the strongest defensive tank, and again, the least played (plus the fact that Order basically has no tanks or healers to begin with).

Additionally I'd like to point out that higher renown ranks most assuredly do perform better than lower renown ranks because they have additional mastery/renown points AND access to higher gear. I've been wanting renown rank requirements on equipment to go away for a long, long time. They already have a medallion/emblem cost, why gate them behind renown rank too?