Can we change bolster from 3 brackets for now?

[stinkbag]

Right now the Q times for Sceanrios in the 12-21 range are non existent past 8pm US time.

Can we just make the 12-21 bracket a 12-26 bracket until we get more players in the game for USA times.

I don't even care if I get crushed in Scenarios. I just want to play especially since if I wanna PvP anyway I gotta go into level 22+ WBs and get crushed anyways.

It's just not fun playing once you get past level 11 atm so I keep remaking ults doing T1.

[Coryphaus]

Something odd I've noticed recently is that ques times are very long on Ordo.
Resulting in very infrequent pops how ever this is not the case on destro

Having said that I oppose this simply because of how this will harm sc balance, the side with the more low lvl players is garrunted to lose

Case and point t1 sc's illustrate this fact.


If want to level up you have to deal with the rigamarole grind that has been forced upon us

If your Ordo you have to follow the Zerg while they pve the lakes

If your destro you will have to grind out gors and maras in ic

[stinkbag]

Something odd I've noticed recently is that ques times are very long on Ordo.
Resulting in very infrequent pops how ever this is not the case on destro

Having said that I oppose this simply because of how this will harm sc balance, the side with the more low lvl players is garrunted to lose

Case and point t1 sc's illustrate this fact.


If want to level up you have to deal with the rigamarole grind that has been forced upon us

If your Ordo you have to follow the Zerg while they pve the lakes

If your destro you will have to grind out gors and maras in ic

I honestly don't care about the level difference.

I just want to PvP I'm all for it. Q pops and having a chance to win while PvPing is better than No Qs. Also like I said The only alternative to PvPing without Scenario Qs is to get into a High level WB and get stomped on regardless.

If you PvE grind you also get stomped because you're behind in RR ranks.

There is no winning in any situation you take.

So making two brackets for now instead of 3 is the best of the evils IMO.

[Coryphaus]

in t1 the brackets are 1-11

and t2 is 12-21 and 22-26

i dont know what you mean when you say 3 sc brackets

furthermore changing the brackets to 12-26 will ruin scs for lvl 26 players

[stinkbag]

in t1 the brackets are 1-11

and t2 is 12-21 and 22-26

i dont know what you mean when you say 3 sc brackets

furthermore changing the brackets to 12-26 will ruin scs for lvl 26 players

You just said it.....3 brackets 1-11 / 12-21 / 22-26

If it will ruin it for level 26s than it ruins it for people 22-25 it works both ways.

If you're worried about 26s keep the 3 brackets and make it 1-11 12-25 and give 26s their own bracket I wouldn't ever do this btw.

The problem is Sitting in Q for HOURS in T2 and getting zero Q pops. The larger the pool the more Qs for everyone.

As i said before who cares if you get stomped the alternatives are just as bad. I'd rather be doing Scenarios than not doing them at all. I'd also rather do scenarios in a low numbers fight than be level 12 in T2 WB getting steam rolled if i ever step foot into a fight.

[Wraithedge]

furthermore changing the brackets to 12-26 will ruin scs for lvl 26 players

Well by all means lets not inconvenience those precious 26s.

Cory might have been joking with that line but I have noticed a fair amount of elitism rearing its ugly head.

I watched a leader, not just the player with the green crown but a person who has actually shown leadership skills and the ability to pull together and manage an entire warband, have a little foot- stomping meltdown because they could not make some t1 level toon leave their t2 wb.

We were doing well but this leader dropped the wb, and announced that they would be doing scs with only 26s. And of course the wb fell apart and the other side crushed the keep and the zone, all for an elitist hissy-fit.

And I can't necessarily say this person was wrong. They should get to play the game the way they want and if they don't want to lead they shouldn't have to. But with our population, a population which will only seem thinner come t3, perhaps its a better idea to consider including rather than excluding. Do something that benefits more people rather than fewer people.

Part of that should be on the devs but part of it is on us when coming up with ideas, debating those ideas and even playing the game.

Oh, and buff Swordmasters

[Abolition]

Well by all means lets not inconvenience those precious 26s.

Cory might have been joking with that line but I have noticed a fair amount of elitism rearing its ugly head.

I watched a leader, not just the player with the green crown but a person who has actually shown leadership skills and the ability to pull together and manage an entire warband, have a little foot- stomping meltdown because they could not make some t1 level toon leave their t2 wb.

As of the next patch, you will only receive Bolster, BO and Keep exp if you're actually in the tier bracket. These people belong in T1.

Devs agree with the "elitists" point of view. T1 characters belong in T1.
(Quote taken from the Bomb Groups thread)

Thank you, move along.

[Wraithedge]

Yes I saw that. And I agree with it.

T1 is for 1-12. If you are from 1-12 then play in T1. I also see that this was a change that just could not wait until T4 unlike all that class balance stuff that is not so important. This was a critical change that was seriously impeding game play. I'm glad they fixed it.

I do wonder if they will be so quick to solve the problem when people playing in t1 become so scarce that it is nearly impossible to level up? Will they fix up pve so people can advance their characters? Will they increase rewards? Or will it just become more and more of a wasteland as most of the population shifts to t3 and 4? Perhaps if it isn't a beloved max level crying at the gate, its not so important. Only time will tell.

Or did you mean that the Devs agree that petulant tantrums are the way to get what you want? I don't think that's so. If that's your view, perhaps you should move on from that.

[Luuca]

Something odd I've noticed recently is that ques times are very long on Ordo.
Resulting in very infrequent pops how ever this is not the case on destro

Having said that I oppose this simply because of how this will harm sc balance, the side with the more low lvl players is garrunted to lose

Case and point t1 sc's illustrate this fact.


If want to level up you have to deal with the rigamarole grind that has been forced upon us

If your Ordo you have to follow the Zerg while they pve the lakes

If your destro you will have to grind out gors and maras in ic

When order que times are long and Destro pops are frequent, order is running their pub stomp groups in tandem farming scs. Same is true in reverse.