Chosen/Knight Aura Handling

[Luth]

Spoiler:

I still had hope - for our server be Mythic-like without ANY changes, even if whole WORLD would up aganst this idea

Dood, you obviously never played any high elf career and tried to fill out a basic role with it (tank, dps, heal)...

Srsly i dont know how it works for Archmage, but form my point of view - i never saw HIGH elfs whine about theirs
weakness :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyEl15_92Bk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ3O1PIt5aU
if u think here (they are weak), save me god from times when high elfs gets changes to ur likening, the ill become gods?
"with lasers from eyes".

If (sm,wl,sw) can deal with chosens\witch elfs (same rank) 1vs1 or 1vs2, I think They are fine.
Sm had problems with "TANK" role , but HOW 3 absorb skills, 1 heal, tons or parry + 20% INCOMING HEAL.
GOSH i dont know what else you need (GOD BLESSING with 2 skills +1000 armor,oh no u ALREDY had it).

Hm, i don't know where to start here:

1. The videos show only the renown bolster buff in RvR, not the second bolster for lvl 45 (RR100), so they were taken before this was patched.
This means that depending on the time they were taken, there could be a difference for up to one level per renown rank (RR100 = level 60 as it was introduced) or one level per 4 renown ranks (RR100 = level 45 patched later).
So RR80 vs RR92 could be level 40 vs level 52 in these videos (not even talking about procs on sets...).
The whole WL video seems to be like from before the fix to RR100 = level 45.

2. These videos show selected gameplay. You don't know how many times the players died in similar situations (e.g. no luck with crits etc.)

3. Kiting around de-stealthed witch elfs on a SW is not the great art. Also you don't know anything about the individual playerskill of the enemies in these videos (e.g. chosen on 4:20 in the WL video seems to be a key turner).

4. I wasn't even talking about 1vs1 situations, i was talking about their basic role in a group:
tank = supporting/protecting group members
dps = burst damage and debuffs that actually kill targets that get support by the enemy
heal = ...
You can try to compare the SMs group support with stuff that others have and see that his only special ability he brings to the table is "whispering wind"...
You can form a group with two WLs as DPS and try to kill anything in the enemies group without an incoming healdebuff...
You can compare the burst damage capability of a SW with a BW over 10 seconds...
You can compare the AM with any other healer and see that he sucks hars as a healer...

[hohomen]

So what?, u wonna SMs- to get Kobts auras to be popular?) or how u proposes to increased their effectiveness, witch buff U need? or JUST ( reroll to chosens or kobts and be SEXY , they soon ill be even more sexiest).


we can give u dual GUN skills- no one cares about patch notes anymore) do u like stealth? just ask for it and maybe u ill get it.

[Aquilon]

that it would be no longer "age of reckoning"

Looking forward to it.
Stop posting nonsense, dude.


Changing auras in combat should remain. Except this, all seems cool.

[Tesq]

I still had hope - for our server be Mythic-like without ANY changes, even if whole WORLD would up aganst this idea

Dood, you obviously never played any high elf career and tried to fill out a basic role with it (tank, dps, heal)...

Srsly i dont know how it works for Archmage, but form my point of view - i never saw HIGH elfs whine about theirs
weakness :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyEl15_92Bk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ3O1PIt5aU
if u think here (they are weak), save me god from times when high elfs gets changes to ur likening, they ill become gods?
"with lasers from eyes".

If (sm,wl,sw) can deal with chosens\witch elfs (same rank) 1vs1 or 1vs2, I think They are fine.
Sm had problems with "TANK" role??) , but HOW 3 absorb skills, 1 heal, tons or parry + 20% INCOMING HEAL.
GOSH i dont know what else you need (GOD BLESSING with 2 skills +1000 armor,oh no u ALREDY had it).
Or did u was with @GREATSWORD@, when you tried to be a TANK?

They cannot deal with any def tank in game and that's how game work, if you balance game 1vs 1 tank will becoame crap in zerg situation, def tank must be able to handle 6+ ppl as def or what you would when 24-48 aoe slap your face in da zerg? (answer, die like those in front of keep door)
About sm, yea they have problem tanking in s+b spec, heal can be debuffed, absorb work better if you actually reduces well damage otherwise you just heal you for 400-500, parry get ingored by melee with highstrengh ( always capped so) and also great weapons ingore 10% block/parry, then ppl will always try to totaly ingore parry/block by circle you, you cannot parry from behind... if you want look at effective def tank look at IB-BO-Chosen-Kobs----> this mean
if you do not have a wall of block and/or damage reduction you do not actually tank well vs strong or numerous opponents. Chosen is the only exeption to those others 3, chosen actually have with bg not block buff but thx to parry increase + hold the line it can have the same def as others. As downside our damage reduction/armor buff is an enchantment and can be removed. Then as tank you just do not have to be selected as a single target heal, those are for dps ,or you making something like waste ap/soul to your healers.
And we have just finished, the def part, and i dont think we should talk about the cc part.

AM/Sh are very good healer until t4, but rr80 show how much better dok/wp are compared to other healers. Let's be clear you will always would at least 1sh/am for istant ress and pot but all what they do, dok/wp do it better and with more resistence. And this in a rr 80 enviroment where each classes where almost playable and not in rr100 enviroment where there were only 1-2 "good" (op) group set-up or nothing.

about video idn; i care about kaevin damage test made for x seconds in pre- 1.4.9 patch:

slayer 3k "AOE "damage
marauder: 3.5k st damage
choppa:3k st damage
WL around <3k or less burst than choppa (if not remember wrong)

[Luth]

we can give u ... reroll to chosens or kobts...

I don't think you are able to give me anything. Maybe my signature is too complicated for some, but i play a knight as well as most other order classes.

Btw good to see you are going on with pointless assertions and taunting. This boosts your posts with +100% truth and wisdom instead of making you look totally stupid.
Just stay away from these "arguments" all these idiots here are using in their statements.

[Azarael]

Azarael-san , little change with aura-system ill lead u to The Biggest "REWORKS" in all skills where kids would ask FOR @BALANCE@ and after that it would be no longer "age of reckoning" . where KOBts ill get Chosens skills-tactics (with power of chaos) ruin da lOre).(and even MARA gets a PET couz he lonely)
Will be server Re-named? after DAT many changes to happend from original patch notes? in Parody on WHO.


If u one time , go different route form patch notes who can be sure you ill not change others aspects for donate or for fun no one ill trust you , even if u ill be told only truth. Did u hear story about a BOY who allways spoked about a Wolf, when real wolf ill come no one ill belive to dat boy words.IMO

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope

Theoretical discussion follows.

I've argued with a few people (in the context of a different and badly flawed game) who held the viewpoint that the original state of the game was perfect and that changing it in any way whatsoever would destroy it. Strangely enough they can never actually give any reasons to support this idea - usually they'll make threats to leave if anything's changed or just blindly repeat over and over again that the game will be ruined. The reason for this is simple:

The person benefits greatly from some flaw in the original vision, and cannot say this without losing the argument, so must talk rubbish instead.

I've yet to encounter any exceptions to this.

[hohomen]

that it would be no longer "age of reckoning"

Looking forward to it.
Stop posting nonsense, dude.


Changing auras in combat should remain. Except this, all seems cool.

Let me getting my fun , even in WOW private servers no one ever changes skills different to (patch-notes)
they only do change NUMBERS and rescale math in skills it would become nonsense.
Exemple :
OH my god my dk cant tank boss (GM LET me WEAR A SHIELD like warrior or paladin does) its fc nonsense
EVEN if (SM and KOBTS tanks) ,u cant make all skills balance and just GIVEAWAY anything they wonna.

But if server ill be become shee..., i ill had my fun to look at it)

[noisestorm]

Just ignore this kid already..

@Azarael-San (<3): Did you find a solution in the meantime that satisfies you ?

[Azarael]

@Azarael-San (<3): Did you find a solution in the meantime that satisfies you ?

I'm going ahead with the toggle implementation at the moment. Needed to rework the other auras as well (WP/DoK/Slayer/HTL) as I saw a better way of doing it.

[hohomen]

noisestorm did u get butthurt?, u said u alredy ignore me and human-sense .
but instead each 10 post u talk about me..... so u wona POST-flood? to 800 and grow balls even bigger<
You are nothing but flooder useless one.(and srsly i old enough to be urs dad and smak dat ass of urs ANIME-KUNavatarboy)