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Caduceus
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Re: Scs need a change

Post#41 » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:38 am

I do like the idea of a casual 6v6 mode, which constructs 2/2/2 setups like in Solo Ranked, perhaps even crossrealm. I've long argued that Ranked really needs a practice arena, since the playstyle in Ranked is so intense and different from normal RoR gameplay.

Though, I don't think it should be introduced in the context of pug SCs, but rather in the context of Ranked and creating an extra step in the ladder where players can practice and familiarize themselves without the stress and (sadly) toxicity of real Ranked.
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Dabbart
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Re: Scs need a change

Post#42 » Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:20 pm

Caduceus wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:38 am I do like the idea of a casual 6v6 mode, which constructs 2/2/2 setups like in Solo Ranked, perhaps even crossrealm. I've long argued that Ranked really needs a practice arena, since the playstyle in Ranked is so intense and different from normal RoR gameplay.

Though, I don't think it should be introduced in the context of pug SCs, but rather in the context of Ranked and creating an extra step in the ladder where players can practice and familiarize themselves without the stress and (sadly) toxicity of real Ranked.
But.... Wont whatever you replace solo ranked with, simply turn into solo ranked? It'll be functionally the exact same thing, no? Q solo and be garunteed a 2/2/2 vs 2/2/2 with certain class restrictions to ensure "balance" and alongside an Xrealm Q system? The same people will use the same discord server for it. So... What'll be changed?

I really like Wargrim's idea of a timed 6v6 system, but I also have found that ranked solo has opened and helped players to meet and play with those that they would literally NEVER game with. I think that's a good thing. Generally. How many posts do we see complaining about the Elites not letting others in their groups?

Btw, I only found ranked to be toxic a couple times(but when it was, it was REAL toxic... *cough*SNEED*cough*). I think the community was brutal towards a few players, but honestly they deserved it. I didn't see anyone START toxic. They arrived there after trying to be polite the first X times they offered advice. Many people just suck(in a 6v6 environment), and either ignore advice or flat out get offended at anyone giving advice or criticism, regardless how it is offered.

I've tried to trade people pots/linis so they would use them and been called toxic. I was trying to give them free ****. I've seen people intentionally lose because their gameplay was mildly criticized once. Yea, it can be toxic. But generally it's dipshits that deserve it that receive the toxicity. In my experience anyways.
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Caduceus
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Re: Scs need a change

Post#43 » Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:42 pm

Dabbart wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:20 pm
But.... Wont whatever you replace solo ranked with, simply turn into solo ranked? It'll be functionally the exact same thing, no? Q solo and be garunteed a 2/2/2 vs 2/2/2 with certain class restrictions to ensure "balance" and alongside an Xrealm Q system? The same people will use the same discord server for it. So... What'll be changed?

I mean quite literally a practice 6v6 mode, so without the rewards (and thus pressure) from Ranked. Without MMR too perhaps.

But with some rewards for playing, like regular SCs.

I remember way back when Ranked will still being tested that there were SC events which worked just like this, and I found it very enjoyable and good practice. The matches were intense, yet the atmosphere was relaxed.

Even for hardcore players it can be nice to practice, test or just play some low-key 6v6 with lower stakes from time to time.
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zulnam
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Re: Scs need a change

Post#44 » Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:20 pm

people complained scenarios are not fair...

so the team implemented a requirement to form 2/2/2 groups before any scenario pops up...

so people complained that scenario queues are too long...

so the team reverted the change...

so people complained scenarios are not fair...
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