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Sinisterror
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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#21 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:15 pm

Everyone is affected by snares? wth : D RoR.builders - Marauder Try this on ur marauder except just spamming aoe, and i think its skill issue if you think Mara is not powerful and useful in all content the game has to offer
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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#22 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:55 pm

Bavradai wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:05 pm Posting like Maras can take max masteries in all trees and aren't hard handicapped by snares.
Another terrible Gersypost.

That was not my intent at all. I was merely listing all of the things mara is capable of. Not that you can do it simulatenously. However most of the things I listed (probably about 2/3 depending on the spec and content) would be available to any mara. IHD/AD/Execute/Wounds debuff in standard ST build. Aoe KD/Aoe WS/Ini debuff/Execute/Morale drain tactic in aoe build. The strong m2 also available in all builds naturally. While utilities like pull and aoe interrupt are baseline to the class and require no mastery. I think that my post was overall very sound and most well versed players will agree that Mara is currently in a good spot in almost all content. It's practically a necessity in orvr due to the interrupt directly countering Lions very well.

As for snares.. every class, especially melee, are handicapped by this. They all also have the same snare break and besides WH/WE/MSH they also all have a baseline charge without mastery. If you are finding yourself handicapped by snares it isn't due to the class but perhaps positioning or cooldown usage. WL and MSH have leap which helps them work around snares a bit better of course.

I know you have a personal vendetta against me for whatever reason but try to put things like that aside. I've no ill will towards you. I only seek to help players and correct misinformations.
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hordak774
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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#23 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 5:56 pm

dont listen destro who flaming over mara bad compare to wl, the class have everything for make him universal in any case of the game. Strong damage, strong utilities, most of op controls in a game.

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wildwindblows
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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#24 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 5:59 pm

Mara is the most balanced class in game. I hope devs shows same love for other classes too.

Alubert
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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#25 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:32 pm

Mara is a one-man army. He has virtually everything in his arsenal.
Level up its fast because we are before the Dps balance patch.
I expect in it:
Mara/wl - big aoe nerf (ST I wouldn't change).
Dps dok - small ST nerf
Rsh - small ST nerf
Magus/engi - small buff
Hurub Chopa 80+ / Wybrany Chosen 80+ / Mroczniak BG 60+ / Alubercik BO 50+ / Doczek DoK 80+ / Hurubek Zeal 80+ /
Misio Shaman 80+ / Maxra Mara 60+ / Alubertus RP 70+ / Alubert KTB 80+ / Mnich WP 60+ / Kregi SL 60+ / Uposledzonyjez IB 40+

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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#26 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:41 pm

Alubert wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:32 pm Mara is a one-man army. He has virtually everything in his arsenal.
Level up its fast because we are before the Dps balance patch.
I expect in it:
Mara/wl - big aoe nerf (ST I wouldn't change).
Dps dok - small ST nerf
Rsh - small ST nerf
Magus/engi - small buff
I expect nerf for choppa too.

Alubert
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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#27 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:53 pm

wildwindblows wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:41 pm
Alubert wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:32 pm Mara is a one-man army. He has virtually everything in his arsenal.
Level up its fast because we are before the Dps balance patch.
I expect in it:
Mara/wl - big aoe nerf (ST I wouldn't change).
Dps dok - small ST nerf
Rsh - small ST nerf
Magus/engi - small buff
I expect nerf for choppa too.
Choppa and SL are currently very well balanced when it comes to aoe.
Instead, I expect a strong reinforcement of the 2h ST spec (finally).
Hurub Chopa 80+ / Wybrany Chosen 80+ / Mroczniak BG 60+ / Alubercik BO 50+ / Doczek DoK 80+ / Hurubek Zeal 80+ /
Misio Shaman 80+ / Maxra Mara 60+ / Alubertus RP 70+ / Alubert KTB 80+ / Mnich WP 60+ / Kregi SL 60+ / Uposledzonyjez IB 40+

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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#28 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:55 pm

Alubert wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:53 pm
wildwindblows wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:41 pm
Alubert wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:32 pm Mara is a one-man army. He has virtually everything in his arsenal.
Level up its fast because we are before the Dps balance patch.
I expect in it:
Mara/wl - big aoe nerf (ST I wouldn't change).
Dps dok - small ST nerf
Rsh - small ST nerf
Magus/engi - small buff
I expect nerf for choppa too.
Choppa and SL are currently very well balanced when it comes to aoe.
Instead, I expect a strong reinforcement of the 2h ST spec (finally).
wl, mara and rsh are well balanced too. Obviously you expect nerf except your main. This is not a good attitude!

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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#29 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:36 pm

Sinisterror wrote: Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:41 am [Piercing bite should at least add 35% Armour pene Additive and work on Autoattacks doesnt matter what stance. If Brutality added 25% AA dmg and piercing bite affected AA that would be noticable.

Also Gift of Savagery has close to permanent 505dmg over 5s dot that also reduces AA speed 33%. That alone negates and does more dmg than at the moment Brutality 25% AA armour pene.
Did you even play mara ? Brut stance proc is one of the most busted buff proc ever, assured OH hit, 25% OH damage, 25%armor pen... its way more than 500 from savage proc and one of the reason why mara change was badly done.
All class/spec are viable as long as you dedicate your time to making it work.

Alubert
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Re: [Mara] Current state of the class?

Post#30 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 9:56 pm

wildwindblows wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:55 pm
Alubert wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:53 pm
wildwindblows wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:41 pm

I expect nerf for choppa too.
Choppa and SL are currently very well balanced when it comes to aoe.
Instead, I expect a strong reinforcement of the 2h ST spec (finally).
wl, mara and rsh are well balanced too. Obviously you expect nerf except your main. This is not a good attitude!
Yes choppa is my main char on destro which I do not play because I play all tanks and healers in the game. Just like SL on order side.
I made the suggestion myself to nerf choppa/sl as the suggestion required so I can safely refute your argument.
The current suggestions about wl/mar I make because I am not blind.
Take a peek at the voting post and you'll see that 90% of players think so. And more significantly some of the better players playing wl/mara confirm this.
Hurub Chopa 80+ / Wybrany Chosen 80+ / Mroczniak BG 60+ / Alubercik BO 50+ / Doczek DoK 80+ / Hurubek Zeal 80+ /
Misio Shaman 80+ / Maxra Mara 60+ / Alubertus RP 70+ / Alubert KTB 80+ / Mnich WP 60+ / Kregi SL 60+ / Uposledzonyjez IB 40+

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