@Brits

[Kabaal]

the economy will be up and down for a bit but will return to normal. More importantly come on Europe now it's your turn, let's destroy this unwieldy behemoth and replace it with something better, that's not a cash cow for Europe's failed elite career politicians, that's based around trade and working together to achieve a common goal and make the world a better place but doesn't have the ultimate goal of dominance over us all.

Recover to what though, the $1.45 ish to the pound from last week? Probably pretty quickly. Back to the ~$1.7 to the pound we were at before the brexit worries tanked the exchange rate? That will take years and might not even happen at all.

[macarenax]

Votes by demographics. {approx}

Scotland 60% - 40%

Metropolitan areas like Manchester London Oxford Cambridge Bristol Cardiff = remain

Northern Ireland = remain

18 - 24 yr olds 75% remain
university degree 70%+ remain

Conclusion? None you draw your own opinons
Will say this however. #IndyRef2.0 here we go ! XD

[peterthepan3]

what made yall brits choose to vote to leave?

As a brit, I would also like to know the answer to this question

Main reason I believe is that a lot of people were misled by the propaganda and false claims, i.e the main swinging point used to leave was to remove people from the country... which won't happen since that's not how it works, and as we now see the £350 million promised to go into the NHS no longer will. What a surprise. Wonder if they will get a nice little raise after this one

False: the main swinging point was actually controlling the amount of people who come into the country, common misconception. It is imperative we control the rates of immigration, and most people living in big cities would probably feel the same. My girlfriend is Polish, voted Leave. Would be sorta counter intuitive if she voted to get herself deported.

Also, who promised all 350 million of those pounds would go exclusively into the NHS? 'let's fund the NHS instead' doesn't equate to 'Let's give every single penny of this into the NHS'. I, too, would be pretty peeved if the NHS doesn't get funding, but I am pretty sure it will do - but some of that £350 may be diverted into schools, or other schemes, so I don't really see why GMB tried to bait Farage with that argument (also has to be noted that the 'official' Leave camp didn't really want Farage representing them, and it was them who had those posters organised, so if anyone ought to be held accountable its them)

Oh and its well known that John Oliver has a particular bias in most of the crap he spouts

[punkindonuts]

Someone at a different forum I frequent had this to say about why you folks should leave:

Spoiler:

Here's an article I wrote for Huff Po which got bumped after the Jo Cox shooting which I think is cross party in terms of just saying "look left or right Europe is buggered, risks of remain are being ignored".

The main failing of the current deafening volume of posts backing remain is their UK centric outlook.

If you vote remain, you think you're voting for a status quo, keeping the relationship as it is today.

That was never an option, it could never be an option. If it were one, I would actually be on the fence about staying in.

However, European institutions are going one way, political and economic reality is going another.

Schengen is crumbling due to German unilateral policy making.

The euro area is facing FOUR major crises in the next 12 months and does not have the capability to raise necessary liquidity or force through structural reforms fast enough.

EMU has locked three of four major euro economies in a deflationary spiral that is expediting the collapse of the EU's economic power.

Youth unemployment is at such a high level in Mediterranean and French economies that there is a legitimate concern on the election of far right governments (or far left).

So yes pour scorn on all the little Englanders, working class people who are worried about mass migration, though this is a pan-European concern and they are joined by little Frenchmen and little Italians, who can and do vote for parties far more terrifying than UKIP.

Sneer at those who don't understand the benefits of EU funding streams or pan European access initiatives - the window dressing of the Lisbon Treaty - these things are great but they are doing what they were designed to do. Distract those they benefit from the fundamental contradictions and failings of the EU supranational structures. Delors and Giscard D’Estaing spelled out that this was their express purpose when they set up the movement from intergovernmental to federal processes.

The Euro doesn't work. EU institutions do not work. The single market does not work. Especially in terms of job and firm creation because it has a regulatory bias to vested interests and established corporates. We are in a customs union that can be very effectively lobbied at the top end and which stifles progress and innovation. We are losing the global race inside the EU.

So yes vote remain because of a revulsion for the fears and worries of the poor and ill educated,

Vote remain because you think you've picked up on the UK centric elements of the economic debate which has steadfastly ignored the huge looming problems facing the rest of the EU in short, mid and long term which dwarf any costs of adjustment the UK would face.

Even vote remain because you are ideologically wed to the idea of pan European government that can hobble UK domestic governance (the nasty Tories, boo hiss!).

And finally vote remain because the baubles of funding and easy travel just make your life easier.

It's your choice, I don’t blame anyone for making their mind up on the above reasons they are compelling. For many people on social media directly benefit from the EU, or they feel there is a value to the EU in their lives, whether in keeping Thatcher mk2 out of office or the idea that they can go and work abroad if they can find a job there.

But before you vote tomorrow take a step outside the UK debate and look at the rest of the EU. What’s happening to other countries and what direction the EU is going in.

If you vote to remain, you are voting to stay inside a building that's burning down and locking the door.

We cannot save EMU, we will never join the Euro.

We cannot arrest EU institutional momentum as that is driven by the need to save the EMU.

We cannot solve the economic crises that grip Southern Europe.

We cannot influence the populations of these countries to not vote in increasingly worrying governments, as a result of the significant costs of EU membership.

We cannot maintain the status quo. We never could and never will be able to.

These are pretty much the reasons i chose to vote out and I hope the rest of our European brothers and sisters follow us close behind

[Cimba]

The next couple of years are certainly going to be interesting. Even more so if scotland or northern ireland decide that they want to stay within the EU. It would be ironic if great britian breaks apart over that vote.

[Kabaal]

The next couple of years are certainly going to be interesting. Even more so if scotland or northern ireland decide that they want to stay within the EU. It would be ironic if great britian breaks apart over that vote.

If Sturgeon manages to get another referendum I have no doubt that this time the result will be that we leave the UK. Personally i hope that she doesn't get, otherwise i might have to move to England

Northern Ireland is probably less likely to leave, there are still a lot of religious issues there.

[peterthepan3]

Sinn Fein talking about a united Ireland again...this is turning out to be a veeeery interesting Friday.

[Cimba]

The next couple of years are certainly going to be interesting. Even more so if scotland or northern ireland decide that they want to stay within the EU. It would be ironic if great britian breaks apart over that vote.

If Sturgeon manages to get another referendum I have no doubt that this time the result will be that we leave the UK. Personally i hope that she doesn't get, otherwise i might have to move to England

Northern Ireland is probably less likely to leave, there are still a lot of religious issues there.

I wouldn't be so sure. Noboby knows what's going to happen in the next couple of years. If Britians economy goes to ****, scotland and even northern ireland might very well leave. But if it performs better than expected we might also see the EU significantly reduced in size and power.

[peterthepan3]

I think what's most important is doing away with this self-deprecating attitude and promoting a more positive outlook. Amazes me how many people i've seen on social media purport that England, Scotland, Wales and Norn Iron are nothing without the EU. Have some pride!

[Epo]

I'm pretty ignorant about politics but I thought that the decision to remain was a clear cut no brainer. But that's democracy for you I suppose. A lot of negativity it's true but I've never been proud to be British as there's never actually been a reason to be in my opinion. Time will tell if it's a good decision or not.

Saw some reports about people crossing both boxes or putting a tick instead of a cross and therefore votes not being counted, I'm not sure why these people are allowed to vote if they can't read a piece of paper properly. I wouldn't be surprised if the push for another vote came through. Id also love to see the numbers for those who are unemployed (no disrespect meant by this, I do not mean those with disabilities, students or with a legitimate reason for not having a job, but as most Brits are aware we have a massive population of people who exploit the system and contribute nothing to this country).

From the people I have spoke to who voted out could only give me the reason of "to stop immigration" when I asked why. Good luck with that.

We'll see, at this rate Boris Johnson will be PM and trump will be the next president. Once that big wall has been built maybe Boris and trump can play a few games of wiff waff