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Coryphaus
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The buff/change that 2H blackguard needs

Post#1 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:17 pm

If you have seen me post around here you will have often seen me say that SnB blackguard is better than 2H blackguard

Their are a variety of reasons for this but the the main one is that you lose access to the longest KD in the game and unlike IB bg does not have acess to a kd exclusive to 2h weapons

Hence i propose a small change to spiteful slam ; instead of being only able to be procd by block, make it so that the ability can be porc'd by both block AND parry

For SnB bg's this wont really change anything but 2H bgs will have access to a kd again and would make the playstyle more viable
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Re: The buff/change that 2H blackguard needs

Post#2 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:24 pm

A lot of tanks suffer from 1 spec being outright better than others.

Chosen is IMO the most balanced well made tank in the game, it can run 2h or s/b and not gimp itself in either spec, it can spec either for physical damage or spirit, etc... it's all around good.

I think of all the BG skills that needs to be buffed crimson death stands out the most. It should really be on par with similar things like the knights encouraged Aim. Which means buffing it to reflect the 100% uptime of the crit debuff. But even then I don't think any "competitive" BG would drop the shield for it unless they are in a comp that has plenty of KD potential.
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Re: The buff/change that 2H blackguard needs

Post#3 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:26 pm

I'm not sure about the most balanced way how to do it - like suggested here, or making something similar to IB's Cave In, or something else - but i definitely agree that BG needs an access to knockdown with twohander.

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Re: The buff/change that 2H blackguard needs

Post#4 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:19 pm

This suggestion was made since the release of BG's years ago. Its always been a good idea. Don't know why Mythic designed BGs like this but they should have block and parry on the kd from the start.

Also, make Crimson Death better.

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Vdova
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Re: The buff/change that 2H blackguard needs

Post#5 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:12 pm

I would suggest more than that.Self absorb bubble(Shield of rage) core abbility to also portable to target under dark protector same as Force of fury(Armor buff). I dont know why BG is sooooo selfish with buffs and cannot offer more than Toughnes,strenght/willpower buff to his allies.
I would also swap AOE snare Wave of Scorn in tanking tree(lvl 29 required) with Elite training(Parry 4 attacks 30s cooldown!) from path of anguish.
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Razid1987
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Re: The buff/change that 2H blackguard needs

Post#6 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:14 pm

Making it proc from parry and block would buff SnB BGs by a lot, too.

Wouldn't it be better to just change it from block -> parry? I realize that snb parry chance is lower than block, but it's better than op's suggestion imo.

Maybe make give it a 100% scaling with parry and 50% scaling with block? If that's possible?
Coryphaus wrote:For SnB bg's this wont really change anything
Erhm, yes.... It actually will.... By a lot!

If you have 40% block chance, and 15% parry chance, then with that change, you would now have a 40% AND a 15% (65% total) chance to proc it, instead of just 40%.

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Coryphaus
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Re: The buff/change that 2H blackguard needs

Post#7 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:56 pm

Well the only other solution i got is turn blade of ruin into a cave in mirror since no one even specs it

but yeah block -> parry works as well
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