Less Conq medallions for tanks compared to healers/dps?

[CountTalabecland]

Recently I have noticed that when I play my Rune Priest I easily get 20 or more conq medallions in a thirty - forty-five minute play session just by throwing around heals both in and out of the party.

I am not complaining, but by comparison for the same amount of time and arguably more effort of playing SnB tank I get like 5 -7 medallions. I play my IB as a guardbot and try to aoe and cc as much as I can while always always having guard up. Hell I even throw taunt on fleeing enemies in the hope that it counts for more for the kill.

My Slayer also generally gets more medallions but not as many as the healer.

Am I not doing something as a tank that I should be doing or do healers just get more contribution (which is fine with me). Are there any guardbots out there that find it easy to get 20 or so medallions in the mail for short periods of play?

[anarchypark]

probably you're guarding wrong target.
you need to be hit a lot.
swap guard front lines, whoever getting hit, even tanks.
dps is not helping contribution as defensive tank.
use taunt to interrupt rez or long cast spells.
and challenge a lot.
don't be a bot.

[Sulorie]

Afaik most damage dealed on a killed target gets you all drops. Healing or guarding someone doesn't matter.

[CountTalabecland]

probably you're guarding wrong target.
you need to be hit a lot.
swap guard front lines, whoever getting hit, even tanks.
dps is not helping contribution as defensive tank.
use taunt to interrupt rez or long cast spells.
and challenge a lot.
don't be a bot.

I figured that might be the case. I do mostly PUG these days due to time constraints so odds of getting a melee dps who is constantly under pressure to guard is pretty rare on Order these days. The problem could very well be I am standing back guarding the three rdps in the PUG group.

@ Sulorie, I think that is true for getting the 1 medallion drop off a player. To clarify, I was referring to getting a medallions at the end of the zone when it flips/the medallions you get in the mail when you don't win a bag.

[Chinesehero]

just play more and u will get enough conq med, dont make so many complain

[Rumpel]

It's a problem because it's not fair =) I had the same feeling while my heal and my dd got bags after bags...my tank gets mostly nothing compared with same time invested. And infight i have all spells on CD. That's kinda frustrating if you know that. It feels as tank your contribution highly depends on your group, not so as heal or dd.

Some people can't play more to compensate this.... so in the end you are pissed for playing snb.

[Luuca]

this is an old grumble. Even on live players of tanks would suggest tracking Guard Damage Absorbed as an SC stat to help the tanks gain renown. No different here.

It's a tradeoff IMO. If you only play a tank, and nothing else, it's not fair; however, as you stated you play other classes and I assume there are tanks playing while you heal or dps. The trade off is with the other classes. While you tank, they benefit. While they tank, you benefit. So it's kinda fair... a little.. in an esoteric fashion.

While I agree getting renown and medallions is "harder" on a tank, I have noticed that guarding the main damage dealer, soaking damage, and assisting does actually help with end-of-zone contribution. I will also say the to maximise your contribution, you should be taking 2 BOs per hour of zone activity, be on at least 1 door with a ram, Get as many kills at the keep and BOs as possible. These things seem to help a lot when getting medals and renown.

[Tesq]

Amog mtiple party only the kill exp get splital among all that made the contribution, the currency only go to to the party that made the death blow.

So as good healer or good dps is easier get the currency if you pug.

[Sulorie]

Amog mtiple party only the kill exp get splital among all that made the contribution, the currency only go to to the party that made the death blow.

So as good healer or good dps is easier get the currency if you pug.

For drops it is most dmg dealt and not killing blow.
The more dmg your party does, the more medallion and other drops you get.
On the other hand, being in a warband party with bad DD is a waste of time, when you want to gather medallions to buy conq set.

For healers it is even worse. Out of groups they get almost nothing and within groups they need to be in a group with good DD, so their group gets the loot drop.

[Skullgrin]

Heh, it's not just the Emblems and Medallions, it is also true for Renown as well. About a month or two after Renown Rank was raised above 80 I did a count of each class archetype above 80. Tanks on both sides represented about 17% of those over 80, while Healers were 34%. RDPS and DPS were 27% and 22% respectively. It's just one of those things, dunno if it could be fixed. I've just decided to accept it rather than complain about something that really isn't too important to me...