Tank&Healer PvP problem and some PvE

[kusiu666]

Hi,

I spoke with my friends and we some problem what is really irritating.

PvE
1) When I will create group with Healer and we need to kill 12 ... chicken's and the problem is he must attack that chicken's to make quest. With PvE the problem is not that very irritating as in PVP but sometimes ... when you doing many quest it is.

2) On my engineer when I’m in group on PvE with someone and turret is stilling other people killings. If turret will kill mob that will count for me but not for other members of group.

PvP More important !!!

When we attack some keep the problem is with rewards for that keep. As you know first person will get gold bag later is blue etc. But this will work only for DPS. But players like me who have Tank or Healer this is impossible. This is really nor fair. On my Tank I already tried many thinks but ... nothing.

I will edit later this post because I remember there was one more thing in PvP for Healers but I need to speak with friends about that.

[Vayra]

2) On my engineer when I’m in group on PvE with someone and turret is stilling other people killings. If turret will kill mob that will count for me but not for other members of group.
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This is a much bigger issue than just the engie turrets. If you are killed by lava in Tor Anroc or the guards at other SC's you do not get kill credits and the SC score does not go up. This is different from live where those things did count as regular kills. Same thing in PvE if some random NPC gets the last hit you get no credit for the kill whatsoever.

This is something I feel should be changed to reflect live sooner rather than later.

[kusiu666]

Any GM is able to replay and help with that. More important will be that PvP problem.

[spikespiegel84]

I don't think the keep rolls only count DPS as a factor.

[roadkillrobin]

I don't think there are any contributing factors at all for Keep Bag rolls. Its from what i've understand completly random at this point. On live the big contrubting factor was time spent at objective if im not mistaken. Then stuff like kills (wich are spread in groups) and then a random factor aswell to break ties.

[kusiu666]

In thi moment I think is counting only demage and kills thats why tank or healer they will never have any bag. When you are dps and when you have high lvl is easy.

[crazyturkme]

I won gold bags twice without going keep so there is no point about discussing rolls.


Soz my bad english

[Tiggo]

didnt find an entry in bugtracker, you should place it there. definitly a bug imho. (kills from pets should count as kills from pets player).

found it:

https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/5039

https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/1229

can you confirm that when your turret gets the killing blow aka hits hero first in stalker quests etc. the group doesnt get the quest finish accounted?

[Vayra]

Yeah, keep rolls are 100% random atm, there is no contribution system implemented yet.

[kusiu666]

There could be many reasons of that, but that was bug. I already try so many thinks and even I was not on list ( remeber there is 25 people before roll and after roll ). Befor roll you can check , if you made a lot thinks... you should be there .. But on my tank I never was there even when my person who I guard received a lot of damage etc ..

Thants why this is BIG problem for NO DPS