witch elf build aka Rip your spine before action

[Bretin]

So reading bertins post about WB, am i to interpret that the ability or atleast the corp dot component scales poorly since it does not benifit from str? As we know resists get much higher down the line?

it doesn't get affected by anything unless the 11 points of tooltipp dmg you get per each one mastery point when specing into the Path of Suffering. So everything you will receive from the current lvl cap of 32 up to 40 are 4 hidden lvls which will strengthen the ability by a total tooltip value of 44. so in T4 the tooltipp will be 434 pre mitigation.

now consider that you will have much more hp (72 alone from invader for example) and a lot more resistance in t4 and tell me what is "too strong".

a **** medium armor class who deals 4.5k dmg from which are 2k true dmg which can't be mitigated by guard or anything in the game or WB hitting you for roughly 100 per each hit (based on rng) through guard in t4 for 4 times a second every minute. idiotic discussion with ppl who never played a WE themself and just trying to provocate another unnecessary nerf by whining for no reason.

edit: the class is high risk high reward with way less utility and later also less dmg than ANY other destru mdps class. i assume it's the right way to force all the ppl to play idiotic medium armor classes and go back to the full retard mode setups i.e. double slayer / double mrd.

#nerfWL
#nerfWE
#nerfMagus
#nerfShaman
#buffSlayer
#buffMarauder

[magter3001]

I don't remember how WB performed on Live but it seems fine as it is here on RoR. Currently. spec-ing into WB requires you to lose the 50% crit damage increase and the KD. In T4, due to the ability not scaling with gear, the burst potential will be smaller than it currently is due to everyone having higher wounds and defensive stats as a whole.

As stated by Bretin... the class is stupid squishy and requires either a lot of kiting by the WE or a lot of support from the team. Most people don't do damage while they kite...

[mursie]

Just to recap:

The original author asked whether he should spec WB/BLB or IP/CC.

Some good discussion took place - noting that WB/BLB is the most viable group play spec. By far the best spec to play. For solo roaming, with only 18 points to spend, IP/CC would maybe be the preferred choice.

After that, it was identified by a witch elf that played the class extensively on live (and plays WE here on RoR), that Witchbrew is operating differently on RoR than it does on live. Allowing significantly more burst on RoR.

My comments indicated that with this new knowledge WB/BLB would be the preferred 18 point spec.

Insults and inflammatory comments after these posts are unwarranted/unnecessary. There has been no whine. If anything, I have agreed with Bretin that at 18 TOTAL points of spec, WB/BLB would actually be preferably to IP/knockdown due to the way WB is working here.

[Bretin]

i just try to prevent another unnecessary whine / nerf / balance thread or even worse a nerf to the by far worst destru mdps when it comes to group play... that's all.

[Penril]

Nerf Encouraged Aim/Dirty tricks.

[Bretin]

Nerf Encouraged Aim/Dirty tricks.

+1

[TenTonHammer]

My comments indicated that with this new knowledge WB/BLB would be the preferred 18 point spec.

Insults and inflammatory comments after these posts are unwarranted/unnecessary. There has been no whine. If anything, I have agreed with Bretin that at 18 TOTAL points of spec, WB/BLB would actually be preferably to IP/knockdown due to the way WB is working here.

Yeah it seems like like suffering is the way to go atm but late game unless youve got a dedicted chosen running resitance aura then i suppose we will all have to resort back to the el classico roamer spec that the op put up

[Nanji]

A gamebreaking bug was discovered. I expect to see another epic mount in the lakes.
Also give one to tesq for finding out that order is biased!

[mursie]

i just try to prevent another unnecessary whine / nerf / balance thread or even worse a nerf to the by far worst destru mdps when it comes to group play... that's all.

"you've been warned " - by a noname guy from badlands with a standard ui and a mediocre gameplay, worth as much as tesq's opinion about SL. grats on that.

If this is directed at me, it has no merit. That is not my UI or gameplay in that video. And i definitely do not have a standard UI.

If it is directed at Nydig, it again has no merit. He was and is a highly regarded witch elf on live (and here on RoR) that always played witchbrew/BLB. He dueled in that spec and was innovative for his technique of actually range kiting other mdps while proccing wb to dominate.

The cavalier use of insults appears to be more trend than isolated occurrence and I find it to be extremely inflammatory and unwarranted.

Having only seen your witchelf recently while solo queing (i've never seen you on it prior to the last few days), I can only assume your insults are based on these instances. In that case, I will agree with you on my mediocre play, I definitely admit I am not capable of soloing your six man. When six people coordinate to champ challenge and kill a solo que'd target, it is quite effective.

[mursie]

My comments indicated that with this new knowledge WB/BLB would be the preferred 18 point spec.

Insults and inflammatory comments after these posts are unwarranted/unnecessary. There has been no whine. If anything, I have agreed with Bretin that at 18 TOTAL points of spec, WB/BLB would actually be preferably to IP/knockdown due to the way WB is working here.

Yeah it seems like like suffering is the way to go atm but late game unless youve got a dedicted chosen running resitance aura then i suppose we will all have to resort back to the el classico roamer spec that the op put up

actually - as I have said before, late game is definitely WB/BLB. at end game you can have both IP/cc and WB/BLB.