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Akkadeon
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Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#51 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:23 pm

Fair it would be if the regular Destruction players regain their equipment.
The order has changed after the defeat of destruction, should bear the consequences, and not all players of a faction.
Can you identify by the playing time.:)

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Penril
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Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#52 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:25 pm

I agree with this wipe. Last night i was on order and talked to a destro friend who usually plays both sides. When i told him to log on order and stop zerging, the reply was "im farming medallions".

Good decision.

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Tesq
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Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#53 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:26 pm

im not a dev but i would really like the things get less stressful, i dont want ppl start loose faith in dev and also, i dont/can agree with the wipe but i can understand it, my fear and it's what i asked around if is that ppl would start quit cos they felt like teased in this whole matter.


I would really like that dev learn from their mistake this time, cos the whole things was totaly wrong from the begginig.

1- you (not refered to aza but as dev team) push a rvr change not discussed
2- the discussion could have point some holes that could had been fill or avoid preventing all of this
3-the change as always hitted the wrong side of the problem, it was easy show as this anti zerg system only encourage more the zerg at some condition ( look medallions).
4- the correct hit to this medallions problem would had been make rvr sets more easier to get, i dont get this whole picture of atm t2 is the end game so things need to be harder.

harder it's the best way to make ppl try to go the easy way.

5- you truly need 1 ppl that take care of rvr campaign design alone, this is not a blame to aza or to any other dev but i just think that it's not possible that more ppl correctly decide on this matter.

A) 1 ppl need to think about campaign changes
B) then theory craft it
C) discuss with community if they see some holes in the system
D)re-theory craft it (keep in mind if something can be exploit , IT WILL NO MATHER WHAT so better avoid it totaly that partially allow it)
E) relase rvr campaign patch/fix

F) dont fear big changes: the routes of small changes = are better : it only show indecision/fear of fail and also give always half solution to bigger problem (but you need to understand when big changes are not needed anyway).

I sincerely hope that this post will not be taken badly but is interpreted constructively. Keep the hard work up don't worry. Next time will go better.
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MrNobody
Posts: 46

Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#54 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:26 pm

Akkadeon wrote:Fair it would be if the regular Destruction players regain their equipment.
The order has changed after the defeat of destruction, should bear the consequences, and not all players of a faction.
Can you identify by the playing time.:)
In a perfect world it would be nice to see the regular Destro keep the first few medallions they earned, sure. But it quickly got to a point where even the regular Destro knew what was happening wasn't right and yet they continued anyway. From then on nothing they gained was earned.

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Bignusty
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Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#55 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:28 pm

MrNobody wrote:
Bignusty wrote:I love read order ! If its was a problem last night stop log off after a big fight we win you lose you it's the game and you log off .And after you cry because we win some medaillons and becasue you can buy first devastator gear !
You are really patetic . Now i can see you front of your computer all Happy because you win this crying fight.

Order win ---> Destro problem = Nothing to do
Destro win ---> Order problem = nerf / wipe somethings

Clap clap order !
I honestly feel like I am getting dumber the more I read.

Destro whinge because you claim Order have been zerging and smashing you in RvR for the past 3 weeks. Now instantly it is not only the other way around its the other way around on a massive scale the very day RvR sets are introduced. Destro just instantly turned on their RvR skill switches and became RvR Gods? If we were destroying you for the past 3 weeks and all things remaining the same then we'd have been frantically buying all the Devastator gear we could get our hands on. As it happens the server population instantly switches to 70% Destro and you farm empty keeps for 15 hours and claim it was from superior skill?

Stop taking this as an attack on Destro. Its not about Destro! Its about a player base that decided it was easier to switch to a given faction for the purpose of farming medallions. It just happened to be Order switching over to their Destro characters.

Thats not what the new RvR sets were designed to promote. ALL of the players involved knew that when they noticed the farming was getting out of hand yet very few actually stopped. Its the ones who didn't stop who are now complaining about the 'wasted hours of farming'.
hahahahaha ! Because this new major patch was done and because you were pounded last night you crying about this new system ! Sorry but you giving your agreement to see this system on the rvr whit hte latest poll. So it was not a problem beofre this patch you zerged all days free rp free infl free xp free money, but whit this new patch all order crying about this free medaillons because you all log off after mandred fight ! Its your fault you stop to play because you lose and now we are punish. good job !

Penril
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Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#56 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:31 pm

Akkadeon wrote:On one side is your doing of course, but what about the players a lot of time for the farms of Medalions have invested? What can the Destros for that was the order represented so weak? Now we are the ones the unfair (lost time, almost sleepless night) were treated. MMorpg's are usually structured so that you have to afford what (time) to the front to be a participant. I personally made the decision very angry and I think some other players also, so I want to suggest to you also fair to the Destros be and to think of an alternative.


Mfg Akkadeon
A couple of hours is NOT a lot of time.

dave2278
Posts: 143

Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#57 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:32 pm

As how much as i don't like this it had to be done but the rvr sets are way to ecpensive to earn. I hope you find a system that helps with the problem. There was a suggestion where you get points for kills and team mate kills. If you take the keep all those points add up and you gain medals based on those points
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aidan1982
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Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#58 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:38 pm

As i said in game, if that were mythic devs they would have logged destro toons and helped farm.

Well done Devs.

this is exactly what i would expect from from a small development team with the community and its players interest front of mind.

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oldgrog
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Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#59 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:38 pm

Order lose big fight 4 mand after medalions was added .

Thay was losing like us (im destro pl no single order char) last 2 weaks thay goes off or reloged to destro.

Thay sterted farming on destro side alts . Fights was not funny i prefer losing than thys i will not cry after my 45 medalions lost.

But there is no problem whean order dominate and we are bombed whole time by 2kotb +2bw +2wp squads thay not loging than to destro to balance sides but thay fast reloging to join wining side .

There is no xp / rr wipes whean is 70 % - 30 % unbalance .
I think order wined again thats all.

Pls giwe us faction change timer .
Or let log in only to lover populated faction if pl hewe chars on both sides.

sry 4 my english

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Gatto
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Re: Medallion / Devastator Wipe

Post#60 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:43 pm

we will be able to trade scout medallions for soldiers? cuz if we can, orders have a good advantage after 2 weeks of free farm (also thanks destro xrealmers)
and what about stacking 2 premades vs pugs is scs?
sorry for bad english
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