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Penril
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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#41 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:52 pm

Telen wrote:
Penril wrote:I disagree. Money was only useful if you wanted to twink yourself for T1 (buying lvl 10- gear that no longer dropped and therefore was really expensive). With the book, non-rich players were able to stop at lvl 15 and twink themselves by farming T2 zones, in the end having much better characters than rich lvl 10 endless-trial twinks.

However, this didn't happen that much; most people twinked in T3. And pretty much everyone was able to farm LotD for weapons and a backpiece+jewel combo. Not to mention many people stayed there until at least rr70 (Worn Sov) therefore entering T4 being competitive and not just cannon fodder for all the 90+ "pros".

TL;DR: The book was awesome for new players.
There were tons of archmages and squig herders that just stayed in t3 forever. Farmed for bugged souls had tons of high level consumables bought with gold from their rr100 and had a ridiculous advantage over new players.
Hyperbole. I leveled all the classes to t4 (never used the book) and din't see "tons" of AMs or SHs twinks. Sure, there were some that were a pita if you encountered them 1v1, but if you have bad gear it is generally a bad idea to be soloing in the first place anyway. If you were in a group, they weren't that much of a problem.

And both sides balanced each other; i had a Magus with LotD shinies (nasty damage bonus) and i would always focus enemy twinks first (and they would focus me as well). Fun times.

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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#42 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:54 pm

Penril wrote:
Hyperbole. I leveled all the classes to t4 (never used the book) and din't see "tons" of AMs or SHs twinks. Sure, there were some that were a pita if you encountered them 1v1, but if you have bad gear it is generally a bad idea to be soloing in the first place anyway. If you were in a group, they weren't that much of a problem.

And both sides balanced each other; i had a Magus with LotD shinies (nasty damage bonus) and i would always focus enemy twinks first (and they would focus me as well). Fun times.
Ahh I see. Thats why.
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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#43 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:56 pm

Telen wrote:
Penril wrote:
Hyperbole. I leveled all the classes to t4 (never used the book) and din't see "tons" of AMs or SHs twinks. Sure, there were some that were a pita if you encountered them 1v1, but if you have bad gear it is generally a bad idea to be soloing in the first place anyway. If you were in a group, they weren't that much of a problem.

And both sides balanced each other; i had a Magus with LotD shinies (nasty damage bonus) and i would always focus enemy twinks first (and they would focus me as well). Fun times.
Ahh I see. Thats why.
No, that's not why, because if you read my posts you will find that i said i never used the book in the lower tiers. All my alts entered T4 at around rr40-45. And i regretted doing this with a few classes, namely: SH. RR100 WHs killed my poor rr40 SH in like 3 secs (never got up after the KD). Getting to rr70 soloing in T4 was challenging (but fun). If i had used the book on him, T4 wouldn't have been so painful.

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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#44 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:08 pm

Penril wrote: No, that's not why, because if you read my posts you will find that i said i never used the book in the lower tiers. All my alts entered T4 at around rr40-45. And i regretted doing this with a few classes, namely: SH. RR100 WHs killed my poor rr40 SH in like 3 secs (never got up after the KD). Getting to rr70 soloing in T4 was challenging (but fun). If i had used the book on him, T4 wouldn't have been so painful.
There wont be any rr100 or lotd talis to cause the power gap this time. You can go into t4 in conq/invader and do fine.
Those books were only added for that reason and its wont be a factor.
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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#45 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:12 pm

Telen wrote:
Penril wrote: No, that's not why, because if you read my posts you will find that i said i never used the book in the lower tiers. All my alts entered T4 at around rr40-45. And i regretted doing this with a few classes, namely: SH. RR100 WHs killed my poor rr40 SH in like 3 secs (never got up after the KD). Getting to rr70 soloing in T4 was challenging (but fun). If i had used the book on him, T4 wouldn't have been so painful.
There wont be any rr100 or lotd talis to cause the power gap this time. You can go into t4 in conq/invader and do fine.
Those books were only added for that reason and its wont be a factor.
Agreed. It is pointless to talk about this book until T4, rr100 and LotD is implemented in the game. Which might take a loooooooooooooooong time.

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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#46 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:21 pm

I totally agree. Avoid Mythic's mistake and go at your own pace. T2 will probably have a lot of pains and dodgy areas (Eg: Keeps sound like a pain in the ass for a handful of people who are bringing back an MMO in their spare time) so as I said - take all the time you need. T1 is enough for me to have my hands full for a few weeks/months leveling classes to 10, getting to lairs etc. But to be honest, I thought I would never see this game again, so thanks a ton for doing this.

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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#47 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:34 pm

Penril wrote:rr100
Heh.

Penril
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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#48 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:55 pm

Azarael wrote:
Penril wrote:rr100
Heh.
I know...

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arnagob
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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#49 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:30 am

Ofc rush it, i stop play atm cuz league of legends still more funny.... Scenario begin to be sadly borring, ppl don't wanna go rvr cuz they don't loot gears and nice renown... Who the **** care about that pls...
to my mid u have to :
1- party/wb fix (ppl will move more theirs ass on open rvr)
2- t2 (no need keep atm)
3- CC (mad kitting)
4- cast/guards/melee abilities works well
5- rr/career tactics
Keep ur motivation devs u still better than devs on live server :P

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geraldtarrant
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Re: Dont rush T2

Post#50 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:30 am

T2 need to w8, till all t1 is perfectly finished. New content shouldnt be released if we have still holes in existing t1.
my list would be
1 party/wb fix
2 fully working t1 rvr
3 all abilities working well
4 lvl cap increased to 15 (as it was in later t1)
5 rr/career tactics (tactics are enabled at lvl 11, can start fixing them after lvl cap)
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