Nerfed buttons

[Telen]

I dont know what you try to imply with your exaggerations...

From the guy that compared having a gaming mouse to having a Ferrari. All out of straw today sorry.

The point is that NB doesnt need removing completely. It helps alot of people that dont have gaming mice or keyboards or dont have macro programs. Some play on laptop. You just put the imbalance somewhere else. At least NB is available free to everyone. Unless you want to gift everyone a naga mouse.

[BrockRiefenstahl]

Spoiler:

The biggest, and always will be, impact on balance is voicecomms. Mythic didnt put them in the game so nothing, no addon can bring that balance.

I dont know what you try to imply with your exaggerations...

From the guy that compared having a gaming mouse to having a Ferrari. All out of straw today sorry.[/quote]

L2understand context! I made a blatant stupid analogy as answer, to show him how bad his own was.
Edit: This is not a chitchat, so lets stay on topic.

[Akalukz]

LOL is about all I can say.

I think it would be great to see some addons available by default in the game. Buffhead / GES / Advanced Renown Trainer etc. Good stuff and good to hear!

@Voicecoms by far the most imbalance thing that people use, even more so than autoclicker / autotarget / nb etc. LoTRO did it right by have the voice coms in game.

[Sulorie]

L2understand context! I made a blatant stupid analogy as answer, to show him how bad his own was.
Edit: This is not a chitchat, so lets stay on topic.

We are far from offtopic, actually we are pretty spot on. I see that you prefer silly analogies instead of reasonable arguments about how much influence 3rd party tools have on fair gameplay.

[Ossos]

NB should work as an event, I will explain:
- let's imagine that we need more NA players (they can cheat at will);
- Let's imagine that Aza wants to change the classes, for example a slayer to heal or a dok in dps (these classes can cheat at will);

btw other cheats and exploits should also be allowed under these conditions

[Telen]

Really imbalance comes down to if everyone can access it. All these addons they can. Ive said over a year ago we should make it a clear requirement and part of the download that you need to install a certain UI mod and addons to get everyone on the same level. Gaming peripherals arent cheap, Ive gone through 3 Nagas since swtor came out, and not everyone speaks the main languages of the game or can sit and talk all night. That is real imbalance. NB isnt going to make a laptop keyturner a god. Certain conditionals need removing but as I see it if I didnt have a Naga and gamepad and played on a laptop. NB would be a game saver.

[Sulorie]

NB should work as an event, I will explain:
- let's imagine that we need more NA players (they can cheat at will);
- Let's imagine that Aza wants to change the classes, for example a slayer to heal or a dok in dps (these classes can cheat at will);

btw other cheats and exploits should also be allowed under these conditions

And now we hit the rock.

[kweedko]

NB here for everyone if you not using it cause of reasons, but blaming people for use. Then the problem is in you not in the addon.

Removing it hurt more some classes and less others, we already have huge class pressents imballance,some people just change to more easy to play class or leave the game, without this little helper. Better decision is - to advertise everywhere that there is addons like nb, buffhead, etc, for more people starting use them if they want.

[BrockRiefenstahl]

L2understand context! I made a blatant stupid analogy as answer, to show him how bad his own was.
Edit: This is not a chitchat, so lets stay on topic.

We are far from offtopic, actually we are pretty spot on. I see that you prefer silly analogies instead of reasonable arguments about how much influence 3rd party tools have on fair gameplay.

Go back and learn 2 read my walls of text. If you are incapable of doing so, we are done with discussing this topic. You are either a troll or simply trying to flood the thread with unnecessary comments, so that pointed out facts are going down under your trollposts.

[BrockRiefenstahl]

NB here for everyone if you not using it cause of reasons, but blaming people for use. Then the problem is in you not in the addon.

Removing it hurt more some classes and less others, we already have huge class pressents imballance,some people just change to more easy to play class or leave the game, without this little helper. Better decision is - to advertise everywhere that there is addons like nb, buffhead, etc, for more people starting use them if they want.

Oh, well than you can sure show some numbers and statistics about how many people left the server because of said points right?