Latest Patch Changes POV

[Urdeg]

I flat out guarantee these changes will not kill witch elves. They will still see representation in oRvR, still get kills, still camp the sneaky routes back into your besieged keep. Nobody likes having their classes mechanics changed but the grass is always greener for some other class. These changes will happen regardless. Chill out.

Mirrored classes are a terrible idea. Don't homogenize the game, WAR has a lot setting itseof apart from other MMO's and thats an important factor in it

[Greenbeast]

I flat out guarantee these changes will not kill witch elves. They will still see representation in oRvR, still get kills, still camp the sneaky routes back into your besieged keep. Nobody likes having their classes mechanics changed but the grass is always greener for some other class. These changes will happen regardless. Chill out.

Mirrored classes are a terrible idea. Don't homogenize the game, WAR has a lot setting itseof apart from other MMO's and thats an important factor in it

Warband utility of this class is non existent after this patch. You can play a DPS shaman and get kills. The question is if any warband will want you

[Charon]

I will add something here from order (sorry i play only this side) perspective to the sense of wh/we aoe capabilities nerf. This change in broader picture causes that order will again does not have even teoretical morale drain option (i dont count other morales). Recently sm lost his tactic and now all whs with dragon gun or not will be excluded from any serious rvr play. This may spark in near future next wave of topics about lack of mara in order roster.

[Drys]

I am curious to know what the technical reason was for removing AOE on Slice and Ruthless Assault. That may help community understand why AOE builds for WH/WE were nerfed significantly.

[Tesq]

We are all curious

[Charon]

We are all curious

i dont think that any one staff member will answer nor give feedback how cover vacuum created by those changes.

[Nidwin]

I take any WE love, anytime and any day, devs are throwing at us so I'm quite happy with

- Mark of Morathi - New tactic - This will increase your Autoattack speed by 50% upon the use of a finisher ability for 10 seconds.

I know it's mean but.
Look at wonderful Dragon Gun.
Look again.
Poof Dragon Gun.
mouahahahahahahaha rofl

I hope you're going to change your mind fagio1989 as it would be sad not to see Tristaluna around in the lakes.

[Urdeg]

Huh, funny thing. Its been a few days and I still see witch elves in destro warbands. Again rapid fire forum pessimism has all the weight of a fart on the wind.

[ragafury]

Huh, funny thing. Its been a few days and I still see witch elves in destro warbands. Again rapid fire forum pessimism has all the weight of a fart on the wind.

WE was quite allright from a DPS pov afaik. for warbands, if not a bit over the top. (however light armor, so maybe it was "fair")
same goes for WH.

WH brought in theory some utility via gimp drain, in praxis you had to do stuff which is kinda not possible (positional requirement: behind the target), so same position in our internal "tierlist" as WE.

did you take both into a designed concept for a premade warband?

nope, IW spam (again "feature" aka bug related) from sorc and proc dot morale dmg from BW is too hard + you have ranged advantage and range utility.

so it was basically a "gift" to pugwarbands, and an attempt to include them into the warband meta.
was overall a buff to puggameplay. (which isn't bad, pugleaders don't have to worry about there setups too much, cause managing that, takes also a lot of time and effort(if you do it proper like some do, and put in effort into leading)

so as a result:
the class is non existent in warbands, doesn't matter if you see them in warbands, or not.
it's like the same if I hope on my marauder and spec sav/brut and join a open warband, yes, you see me, but from a practical pov, I'm non existant.
you don't contribute to aoe dmg / centre of mass to kill a lot of targets in a short timeframe, aka bombing, aka what "normal" warbands are designed around.

we were thinking about running some racial themed warbands later in 2019, and have some drafts already in our discord, before the change there were a few WE slots for a MDPS DE lolband; doubt you gonna see some now.

[Urdeg]

Class is nonexistant in warbands even though I see them in warbands eh? Maybe dont make a post drunk? No mate, you're all too busy whining on here to get stuck in and notice like with every patch, sweeping and ever-changing balance from patch to patch means concepts like the one you're clinging to here, that the RoR staff made a class completely worthless, never ring true.

Yeah you might have gotten a nerf, sure, but learn to take them without throwing tantrums and instead seeing how the actually effect gameplay first.