War Lion role in WB

[Fallenkezef]

On Order I ran a deep giant slayer ST build, I preferred SC's. Even with an ST build I could do good aoe in a pug with flurry+wild swings.

A savage or brutal Mara spec can still pop monstro in a wb and spam the aoe, same with all dps classes bar the WE/WH and WL.

I cant see a WL beating out a slayer in an organised wb and in a pug they are pretty much limited to pouncing on stragglers.

WL is the king of the 1v1 and small scale however.

[delcon]

I would only run a WL in Wb if we were running an assist grp ,
But as no Destro guild runs by them selves ( Through choice or Adds Happen) We wont be using them any time soon ,
Compared to Mara WL is Sub par in all game formats ,

[Darosh]

0.5 dps RP.

How do you cut a dwarf in half when they're already so small?

You have the dwarf run the HD tactic, prop him up with IB+KotBS/SW critbuffs, AM/KotBS/SM (puddle/2h tactic/statsteal) ini debuffs and have him run healspec.
The RP doesn't need to actually dps or toggle his dps mode, you just need crit for the AoE HDs.

E: Words, it's mutual hatred.

[Martok]

Was wondering what the WL has for purpose in a WB

Attack and kill the enemy.

[Fallenkezef]

In a pug just follow the herd and kill stuff. If you have the numbers advantage the zerg will do the work and if not you are buggered whatever you do.

Wait till you are properly geared then hunt stragglers and afks solo or with a 6 man and farm bo's away from the zergs

[dansari]

You have the dwarf run the HD tactic, prop him up with IB+KotBS/SW critbuffs, AM/KotBS/SM (puddle/2h tactic/statsteal) ini debuffs and have him run healspec.
The RP doesn't need to actually dps or toggle his dps mode, you just need crit for the AoE HDs.

What? The RP has to deal damage to proc the tactic. Sure, the RP can run healspec, but it's not going to be very effective if you're not trying to proc the heal debuff on every cooldown.

[Darosh]

You have the dwarf run the HD tactic, prop him up with IB+KotBS/SW critbuffs, AM/KotBS/SM (puddle/2h tactic/statsteal) ini debuffs and have him run healspec.
The RP doesn't need to actually dps or toggle his dps mode, you just need crit for the AoE HDs.

What? The RP has to deal damage to proc the tactic. Sure, the RP can run healspec, but it's not going to be very effective if you're not trying to proc the heal debuff on every cooldown.

Rune of Battle or the other 5s CD dumbfire ~ even the fluff AoE that comes with a resis rune ~ is plenty enough coverage for a push; to thin the herd. You don't need 24/7 coverage either, considering most order guilds run a full on brute-force BW stack and do just fine.
Its a fancy gimmick for RR70+ RPs; if you really wanna utilize it you need a SM WW-bot, said critstack, guard and probably a full glass attire ~ glassy, propped up DPS RPs are not to be **** with in large scale RvR, mind you.

Abbd.: Scrap the resis rune AoE dot, the HD doesn't proc off dots, iirc. - someone teach me how to strikethrough on these forums, plox.

[dansari]

Lolol yes, actually all you really need is rr50 imo to get the stagger, RoN, AP rune, Rune of Battle, and the cleaving/battle tactic. Pair with an SM and 2h knight and you'll have a healthy crit supply. But we haven't given it a try yet

[Mystry]

WL is not "meta" wb play. Meta DPS is ~4-5 BW, 2 SL, 1 pull engy, 1 dps runie, depending on how min max you want to be. To say that WL should be "changed" to fit into a wb DPS class is looking at it the wrong way. Devs have already given their opinion that not every class should be viable in every aspect of gameplay. So, it seems that, at least in the current iteration of the game, WL excels at small scale but does not bring much to large scale.

If that's the case then why are many sets of gear only buyable with medallions that you get only from ORVR? Why force a player with a non-WB class to play in WBs and bring the entire group down just so they can get their gear? Remember, for most classes, ORVR gear such as Annihilator is geared towards their 'main' role, while Scenario gear such as Mercenary is usually a defensive set or a DPS set for tanks/healers.

[szejoza]

Cause it's not zerg vs zerg in every fight?

Ask roaming groups where most of their kills come from