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emiliorv
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Re: People that join Order

Post#11 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:15 pm

Vlad333 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:29 pm I started the game 4 days ago and i keep experimenting with classes, currently stuck with WP.
This is offtopic though, the problem is the people playing on Order. At around cr 23, i lose every.single.scenario. You cannot win. No one knows or cares about the objective. No one goes for it, no one checks the map. They have no clue there are multiple points. People play exactly as they do in RvR, and this is a big issue.
Destro is way more organized, they use tactics and strategies. They make bottlenecks at bridges etc.
Order seems to be filled with clueless children that have a lower IQ than
On and on losing streak because they blatantly ignore the objectives.
Queue only for pug scenario or make a grp and play organiced.

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Glorian
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Re: People that join Order

Post#12 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:19 pm

emiliorv wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:15 pm
Vlad333 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:29 pm I started the game 4 days ago and i keep experimenting with classes, currently stuck with WP.
This is offtopic though, the problem is the people playing on Order. At around cr 23, i lose every.single.scenario. You cannot win. No one knows or cares about the objective. No one goes for it, no one checks the map. They have no clue there are multiple points. People play exactly as they do in RvR, and this is a big issue.
Destro is way more organized, they use tactics and strategies. They make bottlenecks at bridges etc.
Order seems to be filled with clueless children that have a lower IQ than
On and on losing streak because they blatantly ignore the objectives.
Queue only for pug scenario or make a grp and play organiced.
Pretty much that. If you join PUG alone the default outcome is a defeat.
Get friends, get a guild, join with one buddy as a duo and double your chances.
1 heal + 1 tank on the same spot, or 1 dps +1 tank in 30 feet are more what most pugs can achieve.

Hell we had killing stuff with 2 engis shooting on the same target with swift assist doing wonders.

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Arcrival
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Re: People that join Order

Post#13 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:29 pm

I recently came back to the game (3 weeks now) I played on private server a few years ago but I played on live the whole time. When it comes to SC's it is hit or miss on the pre-made groups or the level of knowledge of the PUGS. Its all roll of the dice if you can educate the other players respectfully then that is an option or form a group yourself. Like me though no one knows you it may take a while to get recognized I ask in LFG all the time for SC group I think I may have got an invite 1 time but who knows. Get in a guild or make some contacts and improve your experience. Last night solo que I had like 6 or 7 winners and 6 or 7 losers its all good don't get discouraged.
It's OK to heal a Slayer! :mrgreen:

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classyshade
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Re: People that join Order

Post#14 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:30 pm

Vlad333 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:29 pm I started the game 4 days ago and i keep experimenting with classes, currently stuck with WP.
This is offtopic though, the problem is the people playing on Order. At around cr 23, i lose every.single.scenario. You cannot win. No one knows or cares about the objective. No one goes for it, no one checks the map. They have no clue there are multiple points. People play exactly as they do in RvR, and this is a big issue.
Destro is way more organized, they use tactics and strategies. They make bottlenecks at bridges etc.
Order seems to be filled with clueless children that have a lower IQ than
On and on losing streak because they blatantly ignore the objectives.
I just saw your other post about this issue. It has nothing to do with balance. Most order roll as range dps, that's the reason order always loses pvp. This cannot be fixed by anyone. Order players have to roll tanks and melee dps as well as healers in order to win games. I'm sorry but you cant win RVE OR SC with 20 range dps, couple tanks and a healer. Only thing you can hope for is new players like me roll classes that are in demand unfortunately for you tho my main is a black orc so I wont be able to save you

jtj5002
Posts: 91

Re: People that join Order

Post#15 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:17 am

16-39 SC are unbalanced and its not really intended to be balanced. Either Order or Destro can lose 10-20-30 games in a row if you are unlucky, depending on the time of the day. People from both side complain all the time. There are new players running around half naked without most of their essential skills and there are level 39 maxed out twinks.

It's best to not t2-3 SC too seriously. It's just a path to level 40 where the game begins. I see a huge amount of anger and frustration when playing on my alt in them. People tell each other to kill themselves or uninstall the game all the time. It's best to remember that this is a PVP focused game, and some people are just going to win/lose more than others.
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Sulorie
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Re: People that join Order

Post#16 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:31 am

Or you gear your char properly and be the deciding factor, which leads your team to win. One good dps supported by a healer, who knows what to do, can already win the match for their team.
Win or lose is not random, with some effort you can pull a win in every match.
Dying is no option.

Orpheus66
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Re: People that join Order

Post#17 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:14 pm

1 - Only join the pug scenario (type ".pug" into chat to see what the scenario is)

2 - If you are only joining the pug scenario then join them all. I've noticed a few times when I was only joining the pug scenario we were getting destroyed but when I started to queue for them all I was winning more than I was losing

3 - Try to find a guild that does scenarios for the premades

4 - See if you can get into a premade. You can see people advertising for it in LFG

5 - Make your own premade

Chinesehero
Posts: 885

Re: People that join Order

Post#18 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:45 pm

Vlad333 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:29 pm I started the game 4 days ago and i keep experimenting with classes, currently stuck with WP.
This is offtopic though, the problem is the people playing on Order. At around cr 23, i lose every.single.scenario. You cannot win. No one knows or cares about the objective. No one goes for it, no one checks the map. They have no clue there are multiple points. People play exactly as they do in RvR, and this is a big issue.
Destro is way more organized, they use tactics and strategies. They make bottlenecks at bridges etc.
Order seems to be filled with clueless children that have a lower IQ than
On and on losing streak because they blatantly ignore the objectives.
yes this is Order fate
Lowbie ppl should do objective while they dont have any dmg or help on a fight but no ppl like that and they prefer a lose
Destro ppl just want to win and they always focus on objective and their build also good and high dmg that is order never learn

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Re: People that join Order

Post#19 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:46 pm

Chinesehero wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:45 pm
Vlad333 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:29 pm I started the game 4 days ago and i keep experimenting with classes, currently stuck with WP.
This is offtopic though, the problem is the people playing on Order. At around cr 23, i lose every.single.scenario. You cannot win. No one knows or cares about the objective. No one goes for it, no one checks the map. They have no clue there are multiple points. People play exactly as they do in RvR, and this is a big issue.
Destro is way more organized, they use tactics and strategies. They make bottlenecks at bridges etc.
Order seems to be filled with clueless children that have a lower IQ than
On and on losing streak because they blatantly ignore the objectives.
yes this is Order fate
Lowbie ppl should do objective while they dont have any dmg or help on a fight but no ppl like that and they prefer a lose
Destro ppl just want to win and they always focus on objective and their build also good and high dmg that is order never learn
Grass is greener on greenskin side? Eh?

Chinesehero
Posts: 885

Re: People that join Order

Post#20 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:49 pm

Orpheus66 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:14 pm 1 - Only join the pug scenario (type ".pug" into chat to see what the scenario is)

2 - If you are only joining the pug scenario then join them all. I've noticed a few times when I was only joining the pug scenario we were getting destroyed but when I started to queue for them all I was winning more than I was losing

3 - Try to find a guild that does scenarios for the premades

4 - See if you can get into a premade. You can see people advertising for it in LFG

5 - Make your own premade
dont blame about pug or premade
most time is pug VS pug but order really too many low dmg dps and order is high chance no healer or less healer
i have 30k opp emblems and most of them from pug SC and order dps always lower dmg. And order healer dont like que SC too

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